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KizzyKazaer

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News & Current Affairs board returning to original intention
« on: February 21, 2018, 04:48:25 PM »
Hi All  :-)  To (hopefully) encourage more posting on the Talk board and to keep this board for what it was intended for:

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"A place for news articles and discussions related to current affairs, politics and ethics etc. "

...please, in future, can you post any news stories about disability matters (including benefits) on the Talk board (I'm aware some of you do this already) and use this one for general debate/discussion about all other current affairs.  For example, some of you might like to talk about Brexit, or Donald Trump and US gun laws, or the situation in Syria, or even KFC running out of chicken  ;-) 

This is the place to do just that, so we can chat about other things besides disability issues if we want!

Thanks in advance  >thumbsup<

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Re: News & Current Affairs board returning to original intention
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2018, 07:47:05 PM »
Suggestion - change the name slightly, e.g. "Non-disability News & Current Affairs".

I say that because I'd never known it wasn't for disability news and it's possible I'm not the only one.  Indeed, I hadn't even taken on board that it was ok to post non-disability news on it.

That being said, perhaps you could consider re-naming "Talk" as "Disability Talk" or similar.
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Re: News & Current Affairs board returning to original intention
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2018, 08:12:32 PM »
Suggestion - change the name slightly, e.g. "Non-disability News & Current Affairs".

I say that because I'd never known it wasn't for disability news and it's possible I'm not the only one.  Indeed, I hadn't even taken on board that it was ok to post non-disability news on it.

That being said, perhaps you could consider re-naming "Talk" as "Disability Talk" or similar.

I agree with this^  I also assumed you couldn't post 'off topic' things there, my mistake.
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Re: News & Current Affairs board returning to original intention
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2018, 09:18:56 PM »
Cheers, Sunny & Steve - altering actual board names is something I've not done before, so will have a look at that in the morning!  Seems like a sensible idea you have there  >biggrin<

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Re: News & Current Affairs board returning to original intention
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2018, 09:57:57 PM »
This should be interesting.

New names:-

Testing, testing, testing forum
Disability news, talk not disability
Drat, testing, testing
Disability talk
Talk talk
The other talk
Disability talk that isn't talk
Requests for help by admins
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Re: News & Current Affairs board returning to original intention
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2018, 07:34:29 AM »
I had absolutely no idea this section was just for non disability discussions and news either.

As for KFC running out of chicken perhaps Chicken Run is a true life story? Seriously though I was flabbergasted yesterday to hear that 3 separate police forces had to issue statements to tell people not to call 999 as KFC running out of chicken isn't a police matter! I've heard of some bizarre reasons people have dialled 999 wanting the police to deal with non criminal or dangerous situations before but there must have been a lot of KFC calls for them to issue statements. I haven't eaten KFC since I was a child but surely not being able to have a KFC meal isn't a crisis? To think that some people think so amazes me.

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Re: News & Current Affairs board returning to original intention
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2018, 09:31:32 AM »
This should be interesting.

New names:-

Testing, testing, testing forum
Disability news, talk not disability
Drat, testing, testing
Disability talk
Talk talk
The other talk
Disability talk that isn't talk
Requests for help by admins

 >lol<  got it done in about 30 seconds  >raspberry<

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3 separate police forces had to issue statements to tell people not to call 999 as KFC running out of chicken isn't a police matter!

 >doh< you couldn't make it up..

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Re: News & Current Affairs board returning to original intention
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2018, 01:24:26 PM »
Not call 999 about KFC running out of chicken?  I should think not -  I needed them on standby in case Kizzy had trouble with the new forum names.

However, since she seems to have managed that efficiently, I propose to call the Samaritans with my new serious crisis of not being able to find anything to wind her up about.  I've been trying for years and all I get is rasberries.  Hmm, I wonder whether some long-term psychotherapy would work?
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Re: News & Current Affairs board returning to original intention
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2018, 04:36:39 PM »
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I've been trying for years and all I get is rasberries.

And there's plenty left in the can, my supply is inexhaustible  ;-)  though once I did get moderated on a BBC board for ending a somewhat acerbic post with:
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*raspberry* *V-sign* 
>blush<

Getting back to business  >whistle< (and I really fancy a KFC now  >crying< ) who's going to open a non-disability newsy thread? - or are you 'orrible lovely lot going to leave it to me ..

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Re: News & Current Affairs board returning to original intention
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2018, 08:18:33 PM »
What really..  People calling the Police because their favourite takeaway is closed.  >yikes<

oh my god, that's blown my mind, how stupid are these people?
I mean what do they expect the police to do?  break in the premises and force them to cook at gunpoint, or perhaps provide an armed escort for DHL (Drop it, Hide it, Lose it) to deliver the chicken?

How are people SO dumb in 2018?   >steam<
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Re: News & Current Affairs board returning to original intention
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2018, 12:30:47 PM »
I think it's a combination of a number of different things.

Firstly, when I was a kid, it's amazing what we went to the local beat bobby or station sergeant about.  If you didn't know what to do or where to go or where to go, the beat bobby knew.  Stray dog?  Police.  Youngsters in the street getting too rowdy?  Police.  Senile Mrs Thingummy seen looking vacant outside the butchers?  Police.  If they didn't do it, they knew who did.  But the police are stripped of funds, laying off officers and support staff all over the place.

And in communities, there used to be people you turned to like that as well.  Community leaders.  The people that ran the local shops & businesses.  The professionals.  The spiritual leaders.   But more shops open and close fast or are temporary franchises or have less loyalty.  Large supermarkets with lots of young zero hours staff.  Charity shops with a seemingly neverending turnover of volunteers and people on workfare.

There used to be the old 'uns that had been there since the dawn of time.  But now, for a range of reasons, mostly to do with where people live (some political, some just the way it goes), families and communities are fragmented.  Granny's on Skype and you don't know the other grannies.

We live in a world where if you need help, you turn to your computer or phone or smartphone.  Suddenly 'call someone' doesn't mean pop into the shop or house next to you or walk up to someone you recognise as a reliable figure in the community, it means phone or email or message or whatever.

So if someone dials 999 over their chicken, it's not the right thing to do, but it's less illogical than it seems.  It's "Something's gone wrong, I don't know why, I don't understand, what do I do, who can I ask who's in authority and knows what to do?"

If only there were a sort of general helpline.  I think the nearest we got to it when I was a child was directory enquiries, but these days that's a call centre with a charge per number you get given and staff under pressure to do everything fast, so basically it's a move from "What sort of help do you need me to find you a number for?" to "Which name do you want me to look up?"

I think how isolated I feel.  I've been wanting to find a reliable professional for something and struggling to think who might recommend someone, and I realise that I have so very few people I can ask.  Most of my friends are online or telephone friends and very few near to where I live.  Of those that are local, most wouldn't have a recommendation.  When I was a youngster, you'd have had suggestions from lots of people. 

I am now mentally walking around where I grew up.  How many families or places like what we'd  now call something like supported housing (e.g. church home for unmarried mums) did I know where I could have walked up the drive and knocked on the door?  Road A 12, Road B 5, Road C 3, Road D 6, Road E 3...the list goes on.  How many roads where there was someone like that or something like a church or clinic or shop I could go in where there were long-term local people?  Dozens and dozens. 

The awful thing as I see it is not that people would dial 999 over the KFC shops but that we live in a society where if someone needs help with an unexpected situation, it's so hard to know how and where to find it.


Oh hell, my mind's now drifting into 'public misinformation' by which I really mean information that has the potential to do more harm than good.  We keep being told phone this helpline, phone that helpline, until it reinforces the notion we've already got in this day and age of calling for help being a phone number.  You don't have to have the sort of IQ that amounts to a recognised learning disability to struggle with decisions.  Ironically, I think a lot of people with very low IQs but functional enough to get out and about know that they need help from others, but those in the 75-90 range may have a lot of difficulty weighing up information and taking the correct course of action in a complicated world but be scorned for it by intelligent people who simply don't grasp that there are a lot of people out there a lot less bright than them.


Incidentally - Steve - if you want to know how people are so 'dumb', take a look at an intelligence bell-curve.
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