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lostfamily

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PIP once you reach 65
« on: January 09, 2016, 12:40:27 PM »
My husband has been on DVLA & he just received the PIP form which we are in the process of filling in
My question is he will be 65 in June 2017 so what happens then
He had been awarded DVLA for life & yes i know that it all changed & there is no guarantee he will get PIP but if he does what happens once you reach 65 does it change to something different or can people over 65 still be on it
They use to change DVLA to attendance allowance if you had to renew once you reached 65 or over
Would like to have a little light on the matter please

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Re: PIP once you reach 65
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2016, 01:20:58 PM »
So far as I can tell from a quick look at the relevant legislation, it works the same as DLA, in that if you're on PIP the day before you reach retirement age (and I think it's a fixed age of 65 for PIP, but you'd need to check), you can carry on getting it.

However, if you're not on the enhanced rate of mobility, you can't then start getting the enhanced rate after reaching that age.

I wanted to link you to it, but I've only got a pdf download.
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Re: PIP once you reach 65
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2016, 01:23:21 PM »
Incidentally, with DLA, you didn't have to change to AA if you renewed after 65, just if you made a fresh claim after 65.  If you were on it the day  before you hit 65, renewing it didn't trigger a migration to AA.
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Re: PIP once you reach 65
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2016, 09:55:15 AM »
My Husband still has nearly 18 months before he 65 we wasn't sure if they would get to him for it
I will be filling in the form looking at it while it a much smaller form than the old DVLA they not allowing for things you forget or as they say it not the answer it asking the right questions
we will see what happens no point in getting worried until they say something
Can we ask for a home visit for the assessment & do they always do an assessment i will be sending all the doctors reports & i told them they can look at the DVLA application that if they even have it as it was back in 1990s
Thanks for your help & to anyone who gives further help

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Re: PIP once you reach 65
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2016, 12:01:49 PM »
Hello lostfamily. I keep seeing you say DVLA !, do you mean DLA.
I to have high rate DLA of Mob and middle rate for care. I to will be 65 in Feb 2017, and do not know if I will keep it once 65. I have a feeling I wont.
but the only thing to do is wait and see if they leave us alone till after we are 65 and see what happens then.
I did hear if you were 65 in 2008 you would keep it. like you I am not sure. lets see what happens.

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Re: PIP once you reach 65
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2016, 02:49:24 PM »
If you are on DLA before you turn 65 and you don't report any changes your award will continue until it's end date or if you have an indefinite or lifetime award until DWP contacts you. It's current policy not to review DLA awards for those over 65 so you won't be transferred to PIP. 

If your 65+ and report a change in care needs you should be sent a DLA form but if you do this you are risking your current award, only because the dwp assessor will be thinking of the PIP criteria for mobility which is 20 meters rather than 50 meters which is the DLA one.  So if you have only high rate mobility and no care but now have care needs make sure you meet the new criteria when submitting the new form.

Lost family your hubby needs to read the PIP criteria and tailor his answers to the points in the form, if he has a fluctuating condition make sure that he explains it affects his life for the majority of the year they won't look back at the old DLA claim as the point is how he is now not 20 years ago even if his condition never changes (limb didn't grow back when you weren't looking etc ) once he gets PIP he will be told how long for and if that's after he is 65 it's fine he should remain on it.

Good luck
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Re: PIP once you reach 65
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2016, 11:23:28 AM »
Sorry about putting DVLA & not DLA it because i have had to have a lot of dealing with the licence people
I am surprised in one way that he got the PIP forms as he only has the 18 months to retire
I know that PIP can be issued for a long length of time which we are hoping but not holding our breath on even getting it
I have been doing the forms plus a typed summary of when he had what done plus his doctors & hospital appointments for the last few years as i been trying to keep records of everything plus of course his specialist reports & a report that was done for the trade union when he was on the sick but still employed as this swung his early retirement on the grounds of ill health so will be sending in everything i believe better to have too much than not enough but even then don't mean they will say he can have it also he may get one & not the other part which if it the mobility they take or not give the higher part we lose our mobility car

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Re: PIP once you reach 65
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2016, 07:53:55 PM »
Hi MONIC1511.
If you are on DLA before you turn 65 and you don't report any changes your award will continue until it's end date or if you have an indefinite or lifetime award until DWP contacts you. It's current policy not to review DLA awards for those over 65 so you won't be transferred to PIP. 

in relation to this comment, my hubby has just before christmas been contacted by DWP and told his award ( his lifetime award) fro DLA will end soon and now he has to put in a claim for PIP hes actually 68 and yes he was on DLA before he turned 60, can you elaborate as we are both shocked this has happened. thanks


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Re: PIP once you reach 65
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2016, 09:41:47 PM »
As you husband is 68 I think you should be asking your MP why he has been called for PIP reassessment as the government said only under 65s would be put forward for PIP not the over 65s.  I specifically ask my mums MP and have other pensioners who have been sent DLA reassessments.

It may be a DWP error but I'd complain to the MP anyway as it'll feel like harassment
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3. Eligibility

You can only make a new DLA claim if you’re under 16. Your DLA will continue if you were born on or before 8 April 1948.
I put in a kid on birthday at this link and got this message
https://www.gov.uk/pip-checker/y/yes/1958-05-08
Your DLA ends after September 2017 or your DLA award has no end date

You can be contacted any time after 13 July 2015 to claim PIP. This includes if you have a long-term award of DLA or an indefinite award with no end date.

Not everyone will be contacted to claim PIP right away. You’ll continue to get DLA until DWP writes to you about when it will end.


This seems like a creepy way to get pensioners off DLA mobility and obviously the press are not paying any attention or aware of it so a ratty letter to the local rag and a moan at your mp might be productive

Monic
« Last Edit: January 27, 2016, 09:48:30 PM by Monic1511 »

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Re: PIP once you reach 65
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2016, 10:10:42 PM »
I think there may be confusion between "over 65 at the exact date the government said  PIP wouldn't affect those over 65" and "over 65 today". The people who are not affected are those who were ALREADY over 65 on the date they exempted over 65s. You have to be born on or after 8th April 1948 - people who were 65 or over on 8th April 2013. This is because time passes and ages get older, increasing the number of people who are over 65 on a daily basis.

So it isn't "everyone over 65 is exempt" it's whether your DoB is before or after the qualifying date.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2016, 10:14:12 PM by RoseRodent »