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Welfare Rights / Re: ESA & UC - gap in my knowledge
« Last post by Monic1511 on October 12, 2017, 07:49:10 PM »
In Full service areas it is very difficult to claim con based benefits, you can only do this if you have no rent liability and therefore don't need housing costs (previously housing benefit)  In full service areas the dwp call UC a work in progress - they are making it up as they go along.
Full service WRO's report that claimants are refused con based esa and forced onto UC.  In theory they should be allowed to claim con based ESA but will not get any additional money like WRAG as its been abolished.  The other thing is that if it is decided you have limited capability for work related activity your claimant commitment can be adjusted but its at the discretion of your work coach.

just looked at a reference book and con based ESA is called New style ESA in full service areas.

Your right about the savings though - if you have savings then UC will disappear.
my biggest bugbear is that there are NO disability premiums on UC
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Welfare Rights / ESA & UC - gap in my knowledge
« Last post by Sunny Clouds on October 12, 2017, 12:25:35 PM »
Ok, so here's what I think I understand in relation to people deemed not capable of work:-

Now: if they've paid enough NI, they get CB ESA, if not, they get IR ESA.
If people on ESA find themselves in UC-land, those on IR ESA move to UC, those on CB ESA can stay on it (is that 'legacy ESA'?)

New claimants in UC-land who were never on ESA, who'd previously have been able to claim IR ESA get UC on an IR basis.  But what happens to new claimants in UC-land who'd previously have got CB ESA?  Can they claim 'legacy ESA' (if that's the right term) or is it UC (on an IR basis) or nothing?

I.e. if UC = IR ESA, what happens to new claimants who previously would have claimed CB ESA? Is there a CB UC, do they get some sort of CB ESA, or do they get nowt if they've got savings?
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Cafe / Re: Faithful friend thread by Darrowsgirl
« Last post by SunshineMeadows on October 11, 2017, 09:38:14 AM »
Elysium is a sci fi film but there are sad moments in it eg like at the beginning when one child is teaching another to read.
Megs was most likely a bit worried 'ball' might escape.

NN Thank you, Megs is an old lady who has grey on the grey she was born a beautiful dog under the dirt she gets on herself from digging in the garden.
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Welfare Rights / Re: ESA50 shambles
« Last post by Sunny Clouds on October 10, 2017, 10:01:37 PM »
Re. filling in the forms.  What I do is this...

The forms for various benefits seem these days to consist of 5 parts: info like name & address, info like health professional details, tick boxes, list of conditions, and extra information boxes.

I fill the basic info like name & address in on the form and tick all the boxes.  Brief info about GP etc. I also put on the form.  Then everything else I type out and attach, simply writing "see attached" in each box.

I reckon that so long as I clearly label all my info, turning to an attached bundle of papers is actually easier than looking at the form, because I've typed out the info, which isn't just easier for me, it's easier for them to read.

The only problem is that because I do headings and sub-headings and headers and footers, my last benefits application form had an appendix nearly 100 pages long, which equates to probably 60 - 70 if I hadn't done headings. 

I don't know how much that lot would have taken up if crammed into the boxes in small writing.
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Cafe / Re: Thought for the day.
« Last post by ATurtle on October 10, 2017, 09:34:56 PM »
Whoops
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Welfare Rights / Re: ESA50 shambles
« Last post by ATurtle on October 10, 2017, 08:44:14 PM »
I'm starting to wish there was an electronic version of the forms the Dreaded Wacky People wish us to fill in and refill in on a regular basis.
That way we could save a copy on our computers rather than wasting half a tree and half a weeks benefit to copy them.

Just a quick off topic thought, if the Decision Makers have a quota of "fakers" to out, if they find 0.7% as fakers in year 1, do they carry on looking for 0.7% of the rest of claimants until there are no claimants left?
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Cafe / Re: Faithful friend thread by Darrowsgirl
« Last post by NeuralgicNeurotic on October 10, 2017, 04:27:11 PM »
What a beaufiful girl Megs is!  >heart<
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Welfare Rights / Re: ESA50 shambles
« Last post by NeuralgicNeurotic on October 10, 2017, 01:28:13 PM »
 >whatarelief<

Thanks Kizzy!  >hugs<
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Cafe / Re: Faithful friend thread by Darrowsgirl
« Last post by KizzyKazaer on October 10, 2017, 11:34:18 AM »
Awww, she looks about ready to cry... were there some emotional moments in said film?!
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Welfare Rights / Re: ESA50 shambles
« Last post by KizzyKazaer on October 10, 2017, 11:32:19 AM »
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There has been some deterioration in my condition, so hopefully that won't trigger a WCA.  >x-fingers<

For me, this resulted in being moved to the Support Group on the strength of my ESA50 alone, so seems unlikely...
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