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''But frankly given the massive safeguard to the claimant why anyone would wish to opt out as appears to be the case on this thread is depressing.''

I have not read a single posting Lankou, that has argued for opting out of recording assessments. However what is being questioned is having the choice between being audio only recorded or video recorded. It has to be asked, that if a claimant is wishing to opt out of video recording but not audio recording, will they be faced with a situation that the assessor tells them it is audio + video recording or no recording at all?

One simple solution to this could be for claimants under going assessments would be for them to be asked through the paperwork process/form filling which method of recording they prefer to have used in their assessment recording.
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Is videoing assessments going to add extra costs to the assessment process both for the DWP or to welfare rights organisations?

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But frankly given the massive safeguard to the claimant why anyone would wish to opt out as appears to be the case on this thread is depressing.

That is a big statement Lankou.
I would not expect a person to be depressed at what we are saying but they you go you are depressed by it and that is okay.

Each person having an assessment needs to decide what the best course of action is for them and part of that is knowing having the video assessment is not  necessarily going to stop what you call verballing.

To be fair I need to mention I have a interesting in criminology and we each interpret the world around us. They are currently people who are in prison based on evidence that was videoed during interviews. Me knowing that does not make me say video is a bad option but I do believe it needs to be understood for what it is.
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Cafe / Re: General chat about anything you want :-)
« Last post by Frances on Today at 10:12:22 AM »
An update on Ry and I. Ryan first. Sadly his Fitting has got much worse though only Petie Mals They happen Daily going on one after the other for Hours' Migraines daily. Plus all the other things , I could list his illness's but it has now reached 7 different ones(Most of which I can't spell or pronounce !!!The shortage of hormones now causing oestoporosis and his teeth are crumbling. Also he has put on weight from all the Steriods (That keep him Alive) GRRR. He takes 7 different meds daily that I can think off a total of approx 30 tablets plus emergancy injections.
If he goes unconcious .
At least his brain still works so that is good, He has friends on line . But except for one local he see's no one.He still plays games on line not sure which ones I have lost touch.
Me after spending most of last year in Hossy 3 major surgeries. Removal of most of Bowel and Bladder unable to walk without Zimmer. I can now move with a walking Stick, I dropped to 50 killos now I am 70 (really need to lose some !!)
I have discovered a lot of people including (Sadly) family are fair weather friends as long as they gain they are here for you !!  Mind Liz just down the road is 84 and still goes for walk and calls in most days to check on us.
So the only people we see are a Carer Twice a week,Who is lovely collects stuff from Doctors etc, but that is a drain on my pension. Wales charge's more per hour than we pay her.Her Otherhalf does the garden hedge cutting etc,
I do manage to get out there and water it or tidy the raised bed a bit.
It's so Nice to get outside a bit.
Sorry about the rambling on !!!
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Come on Lankou, will you behave yourself for a minute?  Just what is it that has been said that has suggested any of us do not want recording of these assessments?

Can you tell me if a claimant facing assessment can refuse video assessment recording but still have the right ask/demand to audio recording?

They already have the right to demand a recording, but until recently the DWP/Contractors had been using every trick in the book to prevent what is a claimants legal right.
That apparently is changing (I will believe it when I see it, the claimant being able to opt out if they so wish.
But frankly given the massive safeguard to the claimant why anyone would wish to opt out as appears to be the case on this thread is depressing.
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Come on Lankou, will you behave yourself for a minute?  Just what is it that has been said that has suggested any of us do not want recording of these assessments?

Can you tell me if a claimant facing assessment can refuse video assessment recording but still have the right ask/demand to audio recording?

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''I am despairing at the comments on this thread''

And I'm getting tired of comments such as that one.

The video/soun recording will not be compulsory if the claimant does not want it.
If you felt you have been kicked in the face after 28 years of campaigning you might come close to how I feel.
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I donít think there has been any explanation as why lankou is in despair or what we have said thatís wrong. 
I think we all agree the assessments are not suitable and going further the benefit itself is flawed but as I have to work within the current rules I have given up with my wish list of how the system works.

The problem I see is that itís hard to create a fair system.
 >dove<
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Disability Talk / Re: First I've heard of this- Are PIP assessments going to be videoed ?
« Last post by JLR2 on September 23, 2018, 07:20:42 PM »
''I am despairing at the comments on this thread''

And I'm getting tired of comments such as that one.
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Cafe / Re: General chat about anything you want :-)
« Last post by Sunshine Meadows on September 23, 2018, 05:54:56 PM »
Fiz,

Well done and congratulations  >star<. I know what you mean about when you talk about days of pain following activity. Some of us are told to pace ourselves and do a bit at a time, and not matter how many times I do that it never gives me the same rewards as a big clean up or garden etc.  However these days I am less able to push forward with a BOOM KaPowee Ye Haaa Tahdaaa than I used to be.

I hope to hear more about how Dear Daughter is getting on in her new job.

Huhn,

Hugggggss  >chocolate<


Frances,

It is good to see you  :-) I hope things have improved for you and your son. Has he started playing any new games? I was playing one called Dragonage earlier in the year and got as far as the penultimate stage.


 >bighugs<
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