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Fiz

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Re: My call-up papers have arrived
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2018, 09:06:45 AM »
I was thinking next time I have a review of either ESA or PIP of giving my GP and care coordinator if I still have one, a copy of the descriptors and the points including how many points are needed for each award and ask them to write an honest letter but saying that the descriptors show what information the assessors need to know. That way I'm hope a general letter would cover everything that affects me and states what I can or cannot do and why. If that helps. So I'm not telling people what to say, I'm saying be honest, but they'd see what needs to be said.

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Re: My call-up papers have arrived
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2018, 01:24:23 AM »
I phoned DWP on 2nd Feb and the paperwork arrived 27th Feb.

I've been doing my research online finding useful websites.  Now i have to sort out my stuff according to the descriptors.

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Re: My call-up papers have arrived
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2018, 11:27:13 AM »
I asked half a dozen people for letters, used two with my application, one (not necessary but used to reinforce) for my application for review, and three held in reserve for appeal.  The three held in reserve for appeal were more wordy but a judge would have made finer distinctions than a decision maker with targets to meet to turn people down.

Having said that, you can't foresee everything.

One problem was unexpected assumptions by the decision maker.

E.g. I made a reference in a supporting letter to an exercise class was used by a decision maker as evidence that I don't have falls.  When I applied, I'd told them I didn't expect points on physical mobility but was answering the questions because they asked them, but when I asked for a reconsideration, whilst reminding them that I'd said I didn't expect points for physical mobility, I nevertheless pointed out that you can do exercise classes sitting down.  This particular assumption didn't affect my award, but it took me a while to move from "What a plonker the decision-maker is" to "Maybe they're young and fit and able-bodied and genuinely don't realise there's such a thing as an exercise class where there's an option not to leap around."  In my case, I did usually (though not always) move around rather than using a chair, but I did also stumble and fall sometimes and for all they knew I might have been falling over badly a couple of times in every class (which I wasn't). 

Another problem can be over-eagerness to help

I did tell friends and contacts what I needed evidence of, but some of the letters included other information that was not helpful.  E.g. someone who mentioned my balance but then said it was an ear problem, which it isn't, and I've never said it was, but that made the rest of their evidence seem suspect.  I'd only asked for evidence as to a couple of specific things they could directly observe, not any guesses, conclusions etc.

So my recommendation would be that if at all possible, you ask for more evidence than you need and just use the evidence you think would be most helpful.  You're not the CPS with a duty to disclose to the defence!
(I'm an obsessive problem-solver, so feel free to ignore any suggestions or solutions I offer, even if they sound terribly insistent.)

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Re: My call-up papers have arrived
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2018, 06:08:01 PM »
I opened my letter from PIP and found it was posted on 17th Feb and due back by 17th March.  So it took 10 days to get here.  If I find I need more time to complete the form then I will use this fact to get an extension.

Got a letter today from an organisation pointing out that I owe them money.  That should be useful for the managing money section.

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Re: My call-up papers have arrived
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2018, 09:22:43 PM »
Hi Auntie

Phone them on 16th and tell them you haven't been able to complete the form in time or get an appointment to complete it and ask for an extension.  They normally grant 2 weeks extension at that stage, if you ask earlier they tell you no. It always takes 10 - 12 days for the form to arrive and it takes approx. 6 working days to get through their mailing system anyway.

good luck
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Re: My call-up papers have arrived
« Reply #20 on: March 06, 2018, 12:24:41 AM »
That is useful to know.  thanks Monic.

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Re: My call-up papers have arrived
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2018, 07:10:22 PM »
I have been reading contradictory advice about getting a letter from the GP.  Some say there is no need to because they will get the information when they want it.  I read elsewhere that now you have to get a letter yourself, (and pay for it if they ask), because the rules have changed and they do not now contact the GP.

What do you think I should do?

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Re: My call-up papers have arrived
« Reply #22 on: March 11, 2018, 07:59:00 PM »
Hi Auntie

If the DWP think they need additional information they will write to the GP, the facts are that they rarely do this.  If you are refused an award or get an award that is lower than you think it should be THEN you approach the GP for a letter.
I have seen several letters from GP's that totally miss the point of PIP "X is not well enough to work" EH? PIP is not an work related benefit.  Other statements - DWP asks Does the claimant have care needs - GP response "No nursing teams do not provide care in patients home"  Arrrrgh!   A doctors view of care needs is completely different from the DWP's definition of care.

So I wouldn't bother with a GP letter but do let the GP know that your being reassessed for PIP and that he may be contacted.
Monic

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Re: My call-up papers have arrived
« Reply #23 on: March 11, 2018, 08:02:44 PM »
I didn't send any letters from anyone with my pip form.  Previously, I had asked the consultants, and, hospitals to send all their correspondence to me. As well as my GP.  Therefore, I had a lot of information and details of my health issues , which I scanned, printed off, and included it in my pip application.   My GP practice has the costs of letters, hospital notes etc on the wall of their surgery.  It was 25 alone for a letter.  Therefore, I  saved quite a bit by  doing the above. I did ask for a print off of my meds.  This was free, and, it included why the meds were prescribed.  For example I take amitryptyline for peripheral neuropathy, and nerve pain

From what I can gather,  the dwp did not contact my GP.  Nor did it contact anyone at the pain clinic that I put down as a contact reference.  Therefore, it's entirely up to you whether to ask the GP for a letter or not.  I didn't bother, and, was happy with what I was awarded. However,  maybe I'm one of the luckier ones.  Good luck
 

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Re: My call-up papers have arrived
« Reply #24 on: March 11, 2018, 08:05:20 PM »
In relation to my claim, I did both.  My GP printed something off his computer and typed a brief phrase into it, and then they phoned him.  Personally, I think they phoned him because my application was so long that they couldn't be bothered to read it, which explains some of their decisions to award points for nonsensical reasons.  (I'm not talking about the points they didn't award.)

Incidentally - I learnt a valuable lesson from this.  I normally don't see my GP about anything I don't think he can fix, which means that if I have new symptoms from a condition I already have but for which there's no nice fix, I don't go and see him.  The result?  There's lots he doesn't know.  And it never occurred to me that the DWP would discount anything that he didn't know about but that I had seen specialists about.  In particular, I didn't get all my referrals from him - optometrists, dentists, audiologists etc. can refer directly, and it's also possible to self-refer to many services.

So whether you get a note from your GP or just wait to see whether the DWP contacts him, please don't do what I did and not make sure the GP was fully briefed.
(I'm an obsessive problem-solver, so feel free to ignore any suggestions or solutions I offer, even if they sound terribly insistent.)

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Re: My call-up papers have arrived
« Reply #25 on: March 11, 2018, 09:53:17 PM »
There was no point in asking for a letter from my GP, or, tell them in advance I was going to claim pip. I don't know any of my GPS, and vice versa.  All the original GPS left the practice over the last couple of years.  Those who joined the practice don't  stay longer than a few months.  You can't get any appointments with our practice.  We now rely on the walk in centre.  Recently, I've gone there for shingles, and, an Infection in my wound site after my spinal intervention I had over Christmas.  Had I not received the anti viral meds I needed for the shingles, or, the antibiotics for the infection, I could've been pretty Ill.  Luckily, no one rang them for further information.

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Re: My call-up papers have arrived
« Reply #26 on: March 12, 2018, 03:49:29 PM »
That's so sad  :-(

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Re: My call-up papers have arrived
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2018, 10:18:33 PM »
I've been to see a welfare woman and went through my paperwork that I have so far.  She thinks it would be useful if I got a note from the GP as my letters from hospitals etc are rather old.

I have also got an extension til the end  of the month.  Now all I have to do is complete the forms themselves.

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Re: My call-up papers have arrived
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2018, 04:52:53 PM »
Someone else going through the process. You sound very calm Auntie or are you hiding any anxiety well? By when do your forms have to be returned? I think mine said April 8th but I can't see me gathering the evidence I need in time for that. In one way it feels less isolating to be going through this ordeal with someone else but I'm sorry you have to go through it too. You're sounding very organised. 

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Re: My call-up papers have arrived
« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2018, 04:56:05 PM »
You certainly do sound 'together' about the whole thing, auntie - but don't forget that if you want a good rant about the whole shebang, you can do it here  >hugs<