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JLR2

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Amazon Germany cheaper prices.
« on: March 08, 2015, 07:50:06 AM »
I have found/discovered something that saved me a few quid and would like to mention it to others but I'm unsure if Talk is the right board to use or if there is a preferred one, anybody able to help?

What happened was that I was wandering from web page to web page when I thought I'd take a look at Amazon's German web pages and their ''Todays deals'' page. On one of these pages I found a WMF hand held food mixer/blender thingy on Amazon UKs webpages under the title WMF Lineo it is available at 91.64 + delivery reduced from 119. On the German Amazon site it cost me including delivery 56.91 so for me that's one Christmas present sorted. I now, having access to an account with Amazon De, have access to many other products and at some far lower prices than we are being offered here in the UK.

I just thought I would mention this to others in case they might be interested but as in my original op I wasn't sure, as my posting is not health or disability related, if Talk was the right board to post on.

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Edit It changed the thread title for 'Where to post?' Sunshine
« Last Edit: March 08, 2015, 09:13:45 AM by SunshineMeadows »

JLR2

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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2015, 08:38:15 AM »
Another wee thought, given the value of the against the Euro just now this, using of Amazon De, allows me in a sense to shop as if I was a tourist in Germany on holiday from the UK.

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« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2015, 08:41:12 AM »
 I now, having access to an account with Amazon De, have access to many other products and at some far lower prices than we are being offered here in the UK.


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Be careful with delivery charges, and you will need an adapter plug for anything electrical.

JLR2

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« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2015, 08:55:59 AM »
Thanks Lankou, I do appreciate your concern for me not to be caught by delivery charges that I might not have expected. The web pages at Amazon De are much like those of Amazon UK and it didn't take me too long in working out which icon led to their daily deals page. The purchasing on the German site is the same as the UK one in that both show the final price/bill and on Amazon De the final cost to be paid including delivery is shown in s sterling, apparently Amazon have a currency converter that does all this work for the would be customer.

I had spoken to Amazon on the phone before I went ahead with my opening an account on their German site and now feel that before I purchase anything from Amazon UK again I will search for it using their German pages to see how much it will cost through those pages. One other plus for me now is I will be able to organise any buying of things like real German mustard and sauerkraut, something which is very hard to do in the UK.

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Re: Amazon Germany cheaper prices.
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2015, 09:19:59 AM »
The Talk board is for general discussion do it is okay to have this topic here.

I thought to use Amazon in another country you had to have a residential address in that country?

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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2015, 09:28:43 AM »
That is what I thought Sunshine but when I went to the German site and clicked on their icon for making a purchase, I was guessing that theirs was the same as the UK one, I was asked to enter my details. When my password wasn't recognised I went through the password changing process and found my new password recognised and access to Amazon De was open for me. I do not have much by way of German language skill (none really)  but using my memory of where Amazon UKs various icons are and page layouts managed to organise my buying what I was after.

It was something of a surprise to me the price difference between Amazon UK and De on the WMF mixer thing. WMF is quite a good brand and well liked in Germany as it seems their products are of good quality.

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« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2015, 12:47:47 PM »
I thought to use Amazon in another country you had to have a residential address in that country?

No, they're fine with international customers. I've had Amazon US, UK and DE accounts for years. There are a lot of things to look out for, though:
  • Sales restrictions. Some products are only authorised for sale in specific countries. This often happens with consumer electronics, where the manufacturer will only sell to Amazon if Amazon promise not to export the product.

    Sometimes that will be for a good reason, like regulatory approvals, compatibility issues or subtle differences in models for different markets. Most times, however, it's a way to have different prices in different places with the objective of extracting maximum profit.

    Be that as it may, if you try to order such an item, Amazon will tell you that it can't be shipped to your country and refuse to sell it to you.

  • Compatibility issues. This is often something to watch for with consumer electronics. For example, mobile phones use different frequencies in different countries, and most DVDs are region locked, so a UK player will often refuse to play a US DVD.

    You also need to check power plug types and mains voltage ratings. Sometimes you'll need an adaptor, sometimes the product will have a cable you can swap or rewire with the plug you want.

  • Customs, taxes and shipping. Shipping will cost more and take longer (sometimes a lot longer). Customs and taxes won't be a problem within the EU - free trade areas are nice :) - but you'll often have to pay VAT, import duty and handling charges for items that come from outside the EU.

    Conveniently, Amazon take care of all that for any item you buy from them. They estimate the costs (which can vary with exchange rates) and add them to your bill. They're generally quite accurate about it, but there is a risk that you'l have to pay extra if the exchange rates move drastically while your item is in transit.

    This is because customs charges are assessed at the time your item arrives at the border, which may be several weeks after the item was dispatched from the country of origin, so the exchange rate can move in the meantime.

  • Warranty support and customer service. If you need support, you'll often have to contact customer services in the country the item came from. If you need to return the item for a refund, replacement or warranty repair, you're likely to have to send it back to that country, which means you'll have to cover the expense of international shipping and wait longer for things to get there and back.

  • Third party suppliers (Amazon Marketplace). Many third party suppliers will refuse to ship abroad, which is not surprising, since they're usually small businesses focusing on the domestic market. Customs forms, different shipping procedures and the like are just too much hassle when they could be processing several domestic sales in the same time.

    Sometimes you'll get lucky, though, especially if a supplier is using the Fufilled by Amazon system, where Amazon does all that for them. Not all suppliers grant permission for Amazon to ship internationally on their behalf, however.

  • Consumer protection. UK law grants quite a lot of consumer protections which may not be provided for under another country's legal system. This shouldn't be an issue with Amazon themselves, but bears thinking about for third party suppliers.

    Even if the other country does grant a decent level of consumer protection, it may be very hard in practice to enforce that on an uncooperative foreign supplier (Amazon won't do it for you). Always use a credit card so you can contact the credit card company and ask for a chargeback if necessary.

  • Data protection. Not all countries provide full protection for your personal information. Again, this shouldn't be an issue with Amazon themselves, but bears thinking about for third party suppliers, who could well be selling customer details on to other organisations.
Most of my foreign purchases - both on Amazon and elsewhere - have been things that either aren't available from UK suppliers or are ludicrously expensive here. For example, specialist engineering books from the US, German language novels, or electronic parts and modules from China (buying these direct can save a lot of money).

The rest of the time, it's easier just to buy in the UK. Quite often, I discover that a supplier's UK price is actually quite competive when customs and international shipping are added to a foreign supplier's price, with only a few percent going into the UK middleman's pocket. I'm generally happy to accept that in exchange for convenience and the consumer protections we get under UK law.
« Last Edit: March 08, 2015, 12:51:34 PM by DarthVector »

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Re: Amazon Germany cheaper prices.
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2015, 01:09:05 PM »
Thanks for all that work DV, I will keep note of what you have explained regarding buying from outwith the UK.

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Re: Amazon Germany cheaper prices.
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2015, 02:23:58 PM »
You're welcome :)

I was a little worried that my list might seem a bit too negative, even though I've saved quite a bit of money buying things from abroad over the years. You just have to watch your back a bit more than you usually would.

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Re: Amazon Germany cheaper prices.
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2015, 03:47:15 PM »