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Title: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on April 24, 2018, 11:49:01 AM
On my PIP application form I stated that I needed a home visit and in my CPN evidence letter she also stated I needed a home visit. My appointment letter arrived today giving me an appointment date and time in the city. I've contacted the nameless assessment company (blubbed down the phone) and apparently my application form referred to an appointment I attended in the past so they've decided I can get to appointments. They said they could arrange a taxi but I said I have PTSD and cannot be in enclosed spaces with a male so I couldn't manage that, something else my CPN had written in my evidence letter, stating I would need a female assessor for that reason. They are now going to phone my GP surgery and CMHT to see whether I have ever attended appointments there before making a decision on whether I am allowed to have a home visit.

One lady used to give me lifts dropping me literally at the GP surgery door and she took me to my previous PIP appointment dropping me at their door. But 2 or 3 weeks back having promised me lifts to my GP as my appointment was straight after hers and said she had plenty of time to wait for my medication before taking me home again. She went off to the supermarket saying she'd meet me in the chemist. I saw the GP and was sat in the chemist's waiting for my medication to be prepared and she walked in and said she had an appointment at 10 and had to go and just left me there, she'd not previously mentioned any appointment at all. I was left knowing I'd never be able to walk home or be able to carry my medication so I burst into tears. A lady customer offered to drive me home and dropped me at my door. The lady who previously gave me lifts texted 2 days later apologising saying she just had to leave as she was stressed, I did reply saying how distressing I had found it being left somewhere unable to return home and had a lady not offered to drive me home I have no idea what I could have done. I also said I feel unable now to accept lifts from her because I'm frightened of being stranded somewhere. I did also thank her profusely for the help she has given to date. The lady hasn't spoken to me since. A mutual acquaintance asked me to ask the lady something she needed an answer to so I texted that question and as expected she didn't reply to me.

So the appointments I've previously made to my GP no longer happen, I have a home visit booked in for tomorrow lunch time with my GP but if the assessment centre phone the GP surgery the secretaries may say that I have had appointments there in the past. It's a long time since I've been to CMHT probably towards a year but I guess the secretaries there could say I have attended in the past.

I'm terrified that they won't allow me a home visit and they'll provide a taxi which will have a male driver and I won't be able to force myself in the car. What happens if I can't get there? And the stupid thing is, if I need to take this to tribunal, I will need to get there and I have to walk across the courts car park there too, it's not possible to be dropped at the door

I haven't stopped crying since this appointment letter arrived. I can see me not being able to get there and because of that losing the PIP I already have which will have massive effects on other benefits too. My CPN wanted me to apply for a change of circumstances but I wish I'd never listened to her.

Help   >crying<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: ally on April 24, 2018, 04:12:16 PM
Fizz.  Try to remain calm.  Speak to your GP tomorrow at your home visit.  Explain everything that you've posted on here.  Ask your GP for help.  If all else fails, insist on a female taxi driver to take  you to the assessment centre.  I'm pretty sure they have  some duty  of care.  If your form states your PTSD, all the other issues you have with your spine and MH problems,  and, they still won't accommodate you, get in touch with your MP.  Focus on how you can change the situation you're in, and, act on it.  Hopefully, things will turn out ok.   >hugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: bub1 on April 24, 2018, 04:43:51 PM
Fiz talk to your gp maybe they can ring and tell them you need home visit also they will confirm by fax etc that you need it.
I could have got to assessment centre with son taking me and being with me but based on my evidence they said I could have gone assessment (Atos)
Please donít panic I know itís easy for us to say.
Please let us know what happens with your gp.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on April 24, 2018, 05:51:35 PM
Both my GP and my CPN said that I would need a home visit in their evidence letters fully explaining why. They couldn't have been firmer on that point so there's nothing they can do to help me. I referred to a previous appointment on my PIP form so they've decided that that past appointment over rides everything that my CPN and GP are saying about the here and now.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: ally on April 24, 2018, 07:08:55 PM
Get in touch with your MP if you have time.  Or, ring whoever is dealing with your claim, and, tell them you intend to involve your MP.  When I worked at the DWP, if anyone threatened the department with their MP, they were dealt with immediately, and, taken seriously.   With your past history of PTSD,  fear  of men, spinal issues, and more, that's been mentioned on this forum, I think it's disgraceful they won't give you a home assessment.  All because you mentioned that you'd managed to get to a previous appointment somewhere?  How long ago was that?  If it was before your spinal issues, then they should take that into account.  Have along talk with your GP, and, CPN tomorrow. Take things further, you have nothing to lose. Good luck
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Monic1511 on April 24, 2018, 10:34:29 PM
Hi Fiz

This refusal of home visits is starting become the normal line taken by the PIP assessment teams.  You'd be best to get onto the MP and ask them to ask why the assessor has ignored the evidence from both the GP and the CPN that you require a home visit.  If they can ask that question it should change the decision.   The assessment provider are only doing this because it costs more to do a home visit than an office visit.
 >hugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on April 25, 2018, 09:06:49 AM
My letter to my MP should arrive there tomorrow. I've no idea whether he's in the constituency or in London or whether he can deal with anything in time to make a difference but I've tried my best. I can't copy evidence letters so I quoted them, the DWP can check my quotes are correct. The assessment centre said that it's the DWP who decide whether an assessment is needed and if so where so they're handing the case back to the DWP to see if they'll change their minds. I will ask my CPN to phone the assessment centre while she's here on a home visit. My GP is also coming today but Wednesday is her very busy day. She might have 5 minutes during working hours tomorrow. I didn't sleep last night unsurprisingly and I couldn't eat yesterday. My whole body is shaking and one of my eyes is twitching badly blurring my vision. I've taken oramorph this morning because the neuropathic pain was so bad. I guess because I didn't sleep I was moving about instead of relaxing and resting it, I don't know. This whole thing is a nightmare.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: KizzyKazaer on April 25, 2018, 11:08:11 AM
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The assessment provider are only doing this because it costs more to do a home visit than an office visit.

 >steam< and you have to go through all this extra worry, it stinks  >angry<  hope you can get this sorted  >x-fingers<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on April 25, 2018, 04:05:00 PM
My CPN doesn't have time to make any phone calls for me as she's back to back with appointments today so she suggested I ask my GP who also came to see me today. She's also back to back with appointments today but has taken all the details needed so she can phone the assessment centre tomorrow.

I'm worried the assessment centre will just have sent out a new appointment date and time for me to attend the city assessment centre before either the MP or GP can contact them. Then as I can't get to the assessment centre I will have my PIP stopped, lose a massive chunk of ESA and be liable to pay some council tax too and I won't be able to afford to live.

My CPN says I've gone from this point straight to worst case scenario but she did admit my worries are possibilities. But having done all I can I am going to try living in the here and now and do my best not to think about it.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: ally on April 25, 2018, 04:36:10 PM
I'm glad you contacted your MP.  Most do try to help those like yourself.  I think you've done all you can right now.  Take some time out, and, have some ME time.  Read a book, watch the TV. Listen to some music.  Anything to take your mind off the pip scenario.  I hope it all works out fine  >hugs< Have some >chocolate< As I know stress and worry stops you eating properly
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Monic1511 on April 25, 2018, 07:40:27 PM
Fiz
I know you said you wrote to your MP, is there any chance of emailing him.  Their contact details can normally be found at theyworkforyou.com

The assessment centre are telling fibs when they say its a DWP decision re home visits, all the medical info gets sent to the assessor (capita or atos) they look at it and decide if an assessment is needed, then they decide if an assessment is needed they are meant to review the request for home visits, this is the bit they ignore as they don't want to do home visits.  it sort of goes against common sense if someone is so unwell that they cannot get out the house why would they need to be assessed in the first place. >steam<

if you get nothing sorted before the day of the assessment then you phone them on the day and tell them that you are so unwell that you cannot leave the house and they will either have to reschedule or grant the home visit that you doctor and CPN agree is necessary, after all if your GP & CPN can visit you then the DWP assessor can as well.  >angry<
 >hugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on April 25, 2018, 08:03:17 PM
Can I say that I'm too unwell to go to the new appointment then? I had thought it was two strikes and your benefits end? That's what I'm so worried about, not getting there or I could take all the tablets under the sun to deal with pain and anxiety and talk utter rubbish and make no sense whatsoever. Except I can't, because I can't physically get there.

My MP is the only MP in the Country to refuse to use email. The New Forest is a very wealthy constuency for the most part so his conservative seat is safe whichever party is in power and he knows if he refuses to use email then he'll have a fraction of the workload because people actually have to write to him.

I had thought it must be the assessment centre who decide on assessments despite them saying otherwise. That does mean that my GP will be phoning the people that matter tomorrow.

I wonder which assessment company covers this area. In the letter they address themselves as The Assessment Service which is a crafty way of avoiding criticism as they could be anybody.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Monic1511 on April 25, 2018, 08:20:20 PM
Hi Fiz
in very small print it says "delivered by atos" on the front page - OK now stop panicking.

Yes you can phone up on the day and explain you have tried to leave the house but its not working - they wouldn't end your PIP claim if you don't attend.

Your MP (if I have figured out the right one ) does have email because all MP's have a parliament email address, its essential in all workplaces and he just isn't advertising it cos he doesn't want to be bombarded with contacts.

when is the appointment scheduled for?
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on April 26, 2018, 07:13:21 AM
The appointment that arrived 2 days ago was for May 8th but when I contacted the assessment centre to tell them that I need a home visit I was told that appointment has now been cancelled which means that the next appointment I am given I will have no choice to attend or I will have the PIP stopped while if I choose to ask for reconsideration or then go on to Tribunal it would only restart if at either of those stages the DWP felt I should get an award. If that's true which it appears it isn't (do they say these things deliberately to frighten or upset you?) the only thing in my favour is my mental health is worse than it was at the 2016 assessment when they awarded me enhanced care and for the DWP to reduce a PIP or ESA benefit is to evidence that I've  improved since my previous assessment a Tribunal Judge told me and the DWP won't be able to do that because I am worse than I was in 2016 and have very good evidence saying so.
All the local councillors here say our MP is unable to contact by email. His initials are JL if that helps. My letter should arrive at his constituency office today so I assume his case worker will scan it and send it to him if he is in London today. Though if he does have a parliamentary email address I suspect he can pick them up remotely so I'd share it with the many people who say he's impossible to email. I think it should be compulsory for MP'S to be able to be contacted by email.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: ally on April 26, 2018, 09:08:18 AM
I'm not sure if this is your MP, or, if the site is helpful.  There's information on there that you could try.  Nothing to lose, as far as I can see.   Ceomail.com.  Good luck
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on April 26, 2018, 09:49:44 AM
Thank you Ally amazingly it's there! I've publicised it locally because there's a common complaint that he refuses to work with email. I could have got my letter to him a day earlier if I'd had this. I assume he can pick up his parliamentary emails remotely from his constituency.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: ally on April 26, 2018, 10:03:04 AM
No harm in sending an email as well as the letter.  That way you're making sure he knows about your predictiment.  After all, he's supposed to work for you.  That's why he was elected.  I hope things work out for you.  X
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on April 26, 2018, 03:21:05 PM
If I had a copy of the letter I wrote I might have written it into an email too but it was hand written and long so I don't have a copy of it.

Yesterday and today I've been in excruciating pain, none of my analgesics are touching it. So doing anything at all is a trial right now. I'm hoping after a rest I can get myself some food. I really hate my back.

My GP should have spoken to the assessment centre today so hopefully that will help.

Adult services telephoned me as my CPN referred me to them for a social needs assessment whatever one of those is, that's next week. Perhaps I can make friends with social workers from the adult services team and then I wouldn't be so lonely!  ;-)
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: bub1 on April 26, 2018, 04:49:12 PM
We are all here for you.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on April 28, 2018, 03:13:41 PM
2 letters arrived today. One from either DWP or the assessment centre, I can't remember which and they said they were offering a home assessment and they'd let me know when an appointment becomes available. It was dated 25th which was before my GP and MP contacted them.

My second letter came from the MP's office and was a copy of the letter he has sent to the DWP. He said to the DWP that he's requesting a paper assessment for me but if that's not possible, then a home consultation which would need to be with a female assessor. Apparently he enclosed a copy of the letter I sent him to the DWP.

So I await the date of the assessment now and thankfully it will be at home so no worries about going out, getting, transport, facing men in taxis, crying in public and it won't all leave me in a ton of pain. So that's good. Obviously I'm still worried about the assessment but I will try not to think about it until the appointment is sent to me.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: ally on April 28, 2018, 03:39:31 PM
I'm pleased things are moving forward on a positive note.  I'd keep the letter from the MP for future reference.  I'd also offer a copy to the assessor to ensure they have one.  It's also evidence of how your MH issues affect you.  Will anyone be with you throughout the assessment?  I've been reading on the B&W site of assessors not turning up for the appointments, but, claiming they did.  There was no interpreter at my f to f assessment.  Although they knew I was profoundly deaf, they didn't book one.  Either I cancelled the appointment, or, used my husband as an interpreter.  I wasn't sure if it would count against me if I cancelled, so, used my husband.  Therefore, I think, they don't read the information that's sent to them.  Hence, ignoring your home visit, and, my need of an interpreter.  Good luck  >hugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Monic1511 on April 28, 2018, 07:26:29 PM
 >thumbsup<  >bighugs<
That's another thing out of the way, well done and just keep on plodding along,  we will get there in the end
 >chocolate<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on May 03, 2018, 05:47:45 PM
My home assessment date has come through, it's the 17th of May, so two weeks today. I'm very stressed about so many things at the moment I'm scared at some point I will break. I'm trying only to focus on the next stressful event only and then only concentrate on the following stressful thing once the first event is over. That way I'm only stressing about one thing at a time. If I thought of them all, I'd definitely break.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: ally on May 03, 2018, 06:38:11 PM
Fizz.  I read your other post, and, I know how stressed you are right now.  Just take one thing at  time, that's all you can do.  When that's out of the way, concentrate  on the other one.  That way, you'll not break. It's easy to say, but, try not to think negative thoughts.  You worried about going to an assessment, and, that magnified into other situations that might happen.  It didn't happen.  You now have the home assessment you need.  Hopefully, it'll go well, and, that'll give you less to worry about. I think due to being alone so much, you don't have anyone to share your concerns with.  Therefore It's understandable feeling as you do. . I hope your life changes soon for the better,  take care  >hugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on May 06, 2018, 07:38:54 AM
Thank you Ally, that made me cry. I don't think many people understand on the whole what it's like being housebound and not talking to another soul except 2 medical professionals about my medical needs. I think it's a common ponder for people like to me to ponder on whether a life is worth living from time to time.

I'd be taking more top up medication daily through last week to manage the pain even only just moving around the house so my GP has increased the strength of my Buprenorphine patches so hopeful that will control the pain better and my top up meds will go back to being top up meds. Only been 24 hours since the new higher dose has been on though so I won't feel the full affect until Tuesday.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: ally on May 06, 2018, 12:37:41 PM
I didn't intend to make you cry.  I just wanted you to know that I can understand how hard life is for you.  Im not in your situation.  I have my husband,  family, and, a couple of friends.  However, due to my profound deafness, I often find myself on the outside looking in on others.  Unless someone brings me into conversations, or, uses signing, I'm lost.  Our family are having a birthday party for My husband in August.  I don't want to spoil it for anyone, so, unless someone takes pity on me, I'll probably spend part of it upstairs, or, by myself.  I just feel for you, and, others on this forum who lead lonely lives, not of their own making. We all have different needs, and disabilities.  However, most of us suffer from loneliness.

Up to now, I've had five spinal interventions. So, I know how difficult it is to mobilise when in pain.  Have you had MRI scans?  None of my spinal operations, nerve root blocks, or, injections.  worked, so, I have FBS.  During the last operation I was told scar tissue had wrapped itself round the nerve root, and, was strangling it.  That's how I came to have a spinal cord stimulator implanted.  I'm not sure if you've been to a pain clinic?  If not, I'd ask your GP about that.  I'm afraid you'll need to push yourself through the NHS system for help regarding your spinal issues.  I hope the increase of your meds help. Don't forget to tell the f to f assessor about that, when she arrives.  Get a print off of your meds, and give it to her.  Take care  >hugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Dark_Divinity on May 06, 2018, 02:24:49 PM
 >bighugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: huhn on May 06, 2018, 04:24:44 PM
 >hugs< >hugs< >hugs< >hugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Sunny Clouds on May 06, 2018, 04:37:53 PM
See what others think, Fiz, but my opinion is that you would be wise to seriously consider taking care not to up your meds too much just before your assessment (as opposed to now).  It won't help your case to seem calmer than usual or in less pain than usual.

The analogy I would use is very depressed or otherwise severely mentally ill people who go to an assessment and somehow get it together, perhaps with a lot of help from others, to wash, and dress cleanly and tidily, and do their hair neatly, and hold off the tears etc. when normally they wouldn't, and then they wonder why the assessor thought they were faking it when they said they struggle to do these things.  It's absolutely not about faking it to seem worse than you are, but rather to take care not to artificially seem better than you are.

But others may say differently, so don't just take my opinion on it.

 >bighugs< >bighugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: KizzyKazaer on May 06, 2018, 05:55:16 PM
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The analogy I would use is very depressed or otherwise severely mentally ill people who go to an assessment and somehow get it together, perhaps with a lot of help from others, to wash, and dress cleanly and tidily, and do their hair neatly, and hold off the tears etc. when normally they wouldn't

Just something to think about here - not all mental illness means the self-neglect that you mention above.  I made a point on my DLA, PIP and ESA claims that I still associate being unclean and unkempt with being 'bad' and 'undeserving' (due to past institutional abuse when I was punished by being forced into a too-hot bath, having hair pulled during washing etc).  Therefore I will be more likely to present myself to assessors, CPNs - in fact, everyone really, unless I'm totally psychotically out of it enough to be sectioned - as ultra-clean and tidy.  In actual fact I have a tendency to over-wash - and can be triggered by things like a sudden rise in temperature which may lead to sweating and therefore those old feelings of being 'dirty'.  This could apply to people with particular forms of OCD as well, of course. 

Crying in front of people with any sort of 'power' is also a no-no for me, for similar reasons (dismissal, minimisation, scorn etc)

So it's not always cut and dried regarding physical appearance, but it does need elaborating on the claim form....

>edited to add
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Monic1511 on May 06, 2018, 08:06:06 PM
Fiz
If you overmedicate make sure you tell the assessor that you have done this, don't make it normal though, if you overdose for a week then you'll be spaced out.  I know that you may need to do so that you can cope but they might take the view if you can do it once you can do it every day.
 >bighugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Sunny Clouds on May 06, 2018, 09:04:46 PM
I apologise Kizzy, I evidently didn't make it clear enough.  I was not suggesting that all people with mental illness would be applying for PIP would be needing the same sort of help or seeking to be awarded points for the same sort of help.  One person might need help with taking nutrition and another with cooking or whatever.

The key phrase of mine was " then they wonder why the assessor thought they were faking it when they said they struggle to do these things".  In other words, it related to people who, would be claiming points for help with things like washing, dressing appropriately, engaging etc. and who would, if making the extra effort with those things, come across as not needing help with them.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: KizzyKazaer on May 06, 2018, 09:22:16 PM
No need for apologies, Sunny, none whatsoever - just giving my alternative take on it ..

It's the silly, under-informed system of assessment that annoys me with its emphasis on outward appearance (which as we all know can sometimes be deceptive!)
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Sunny Clouds on May 06, 2018, 09:45:08 PM
Ah, outward appearance  Ooh, can I rant?  It's living in a country where people expect us to put a brave face on things, a stiff upper lip and all that, and then don't believe that we're in physical or emotional pain or distress if we do put a brave face on it.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on May 13, 2018, 01:26:09 PM
Ally, I only cried happy tears because someone cared/understood   >hugs<

4 days to go until d day and I can think of little else. I'm going to go to the kitchen for the assessment as I will concentrate better in thinking about questions and answers there. I don't know what to do with the dog. If I shut her in the garden she will cry/whine/bark to be let in as she's always let in as soon as she asks but if I don't shut her out the assessor won't be left alone as the dog will constantly nudge hands and arms as unsubtle hints to be stroked plus the assessor will go home looking life a golden retriever also because my dog sheds 200% of her fur daily on anything she touches. It might be a very short assessment if I leave the dog inside.

I've struggled the last few days, I can't even muster up a text reply to someone. I have no idea how I will feel on Thursday, before, during or after. I didn't tell my CPN that I have my assessment date in case she wanted to be there. I get so embarrassed crying in front of people that if I cry in front of the assessor, I'll try not to, but if I do at least I won't see them again. I did tell my GP though and she's put me down for a phone call that evening. I hate this.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Sunny Clouds on May 13, 2018, 06:28:03 PM
Is there any possibility that your dog might tolerate being tied up near you?  Maybe with her bed and a toy and a treat.  Close enough to you not to feel abandoned but restrained so she can't get in the way.  Obviously not all dogs would be ok with that.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: ally on May 13, 2018, 06:43:08 PM
I feel at times those on this forum are like a family unit.  Therefore, I do care what happens, or, how others feel on here  >hugs<  Can you not ask someone to take the dog, until the assessment is finished?  The trouble is, the assessor will ask how you manage to look after the dog.  You'll need to make sure they understand that you cant take the dog for walks due to your spinal pain etc.  Even picking up after the dog, will need to be explained away.  I know from experience,  that these assessors pick up on everything, and, can come to the wrong conclusions very quickly.  I know from what you've told us on this forum, that money is very tight.  However, if it were me, I'd pay someone to take the dog out until the assessor had gone.  It may be worth it in the long run.

if you have to keep the dog at home  Perhaps explain how the dog helps your MH issues. It gives you strength when feeling low, as you know it relies on you for its well being.  It works both ways, as you spend so much time alone the dog is the only one there for you every day. it's also protection at night time,  Make it out to be  more like a dog that helps you, rather than a pet,  Jot a few ideas  down for reference, remember it, and, use it at the f to f. If needed.  It's far better to be prepared for any eventuality.  Take care, and, I hope it all works out well  >hugs<
 
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Monic1511 on May 13, 2018, 07:27:12 PM
Fiz
have your dog in the house but be prepared for the how do you care for the pet questions.  Don't try not to cry, cry if you must as you need the assessor to see how you cope with social engagement.  if you can stifle your tears while the assessor is here then you can stifle your tears most of the time.  that's the way their minds work. 

if someone can take the dog then you'll only have the questions about - I see you have a pet - Eh no my friends dog visits for the day to keep me company.

 >hugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: bub1 on May 14, 2018, 02:44:50 PM
Fiz how are you holding up.
I would use your dog as an aide say it helps you.
It is easy for us to say stay focused but I know itís hard as when something like this comes up all you do is think about it I know thatís what I do.
Donít forget we are all here for you.
I donít know where you are based I wish I could come and give you a big cuddle.  >hugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on May 14, 2018, 05:25:37 PM
Thank you all  >bighugs<

I had half a text written to the dog walker to ask her if Tizzie could have her walk on Thursday rather than Tuesday though I'm fairly sure dog walking is the walkers lunchtime onwards job but it occurred to me that my anxiety about the 2 minutes chat in the doorway when I hand Tizzie over and when she's dropped off again raises my anxiety to panic levels and it's quite common for me to cry afterwards or get distressed so I didn't think two stressful events at the same time would leave me coherent. So she'll have to be here if she's a complete nuisance I will put her in the garden and ignore her pleas to come in. She'd never be tied up. A few years back she went to a professional groomer and she has a metal arm above to grooming table to tie the dog to so it's in the right place for grooming. Tizzie broke it. It was quite an expensive piece of equipment. I've recently started paying a walker once a week so Tizzie has some quality of life, I know what it's like being trapped in the house. I'm happy to be truthful and say the last time I walked her was in 2016 and I tried one walking service only to receive a very distressed dog with mountains of energy. I wasn't sure if she was walked much if at all and got very upset stuck in the dog van so she had only the one outing with her. I like this new lady though, she's very friendly which may in time ease my anxiety around her and Tizzie likes her, and she arrives home wet but tired. I haven't cleared up the garden since 2016 either so it's completely unusable for me, I can't care for it. The assessor is welcome to go and look! It was 2009 when Tizzie arrived and my daughter and I felt a dog would help our depression and she did. At the time I had the degenerative disc disease and was taking tramadol but could walk fine on that. I had a car then and we'd drive to parts of the new forest and Tizzie would hop out of the boot have her walk and hop back in having had a lovely run. The downside is, that meant she was not really lead trained as she had never been on one and 2016 was when my car went and the year the neuropathic pain started so I couldn't walk her long. She pulls like a train for 10 minutes then stops pulling and walks to heel. But I can't walk to the post box on the corner some days so there's no way I could take her myself so I'll be clear about that. I could give her the dog walkers details if needed, the company has a website and Facebook page and Tizzie is featured on video out in the forest. I love Tizzie so much, I couldn't part with her but I know I'm not well enough really to have her. She has a hard life. One walk a week is not enough even if she is almost 9.

I've decided the only medication I will take on Thursday is an anti emetic as anxiety can make me sick. If my pain is excruciating I will have to take some morphine but I will try a low dose, but will try my best without. Every day is going so slowly, I just want it over with. I'm self medicating myself to sleep about this time because I can't cope with being awake. I'll take what's needed to get me to sleep.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on May 16, 2018, 11:08:10 AM
It's tomorrow and I'm so terrified I'm crying and nothing at all is happening today. I've just read through my PIP application and I can't believe how honest I've been   >crying<  I'm glad my GP and CPN won't see it. I was going to have it in front of me tomorrow to use as a guide but I know with my anxiety as high as it is I will be unable to read anything so I will just have to tell it how it is. I have my GP's evidence letter and print out of regular prescriptions of medication and dressings. I also have My CPN's letter. I thought I had gathered several letters informing me of when I was detained under the MHA and when I was discharged but they're not in the PIP carrier bag. My CPN has stated that I've been detained annually since 2015 which is saying the same thing. I wish I could find the hospital discharge letters from times I've been admitted for various physical needs caused by neglect due to my mental health problems but I can't find them either. I think I'm just going to have to calm down and go with what I've got. I barely slept last night so I'm doubtful I will sleep much tonight. This PIP assessment is so much harder than the one I had in 2016 because my neuropathic pain has now left me virtually housebound and the difference a car could make to my quality of life compared to my current feeling of having no quality of life is dramatic. I am not coping well with being housebound. And my social anxiety has got a lot worse probably because I have no exposure to meeting people other than my children on rare occasions and my CPN.

I can't wait for tomorrow to be over but I'm unsure how much better I will feel before the results come. Both my application and my professionals letters state I need a female assessor and my MP said the same but I wish I knew for sure that they've arranged that. I'm not sure if I can let a man in the house that's the trouble.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Sunny Clouds on May 16, 2018, 11:24:42 AM
 >bighugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: gorbut on May 16, 2018, 11:54:54 AM
Donít try and hide how you feel tomorrow . I know that in everyday life we are encouraged to hide our feelings and not be too over emotional but you need to show the assessor what your life is like.

Also, while itís a good idea not to assume the assessor is on your side there are honest ones. My son and daughter were both lucky enough to get good ones.

Is there something you like to do or a food treat you can arrange for after the appointment tomorrow so you have something good to focus on, although I imagine that the physical and emotional stress caused by it will wipe you out for a while.

Hope it goes ok.



Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: SteveX on May 16, 2018, 12:40:08 PM
>bighugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: ally on May 16, 2018, 02:09:36 PM
Fizz.  You did say your GP has you down for a phone call tomorrow evening?  I'd certainly do that.  It'll give you someone to talk to, and, calm you down if needed.  If it's any help, my f to f assessor was fine, and, I had no issues with her at all.  In fact all the assessors at the pip venue were women.  Just be yourself.  As Monic said, if you need to  cry, then, just do it.  If you're upset, at least the assessor knows you're not faking it, and, you have problems with engaging with others. 

I know it's pointless telling you not to worry.  I'm certain you will do so, until your results come through. Please be kind to yourself.  When the f to f is over, hopefully, the worst is over too.  Can you not focus on something else, rather than your f to f?  I know you're housebound, and, rarely see anyone.  However, is there anyone you can talk to over the phone tonight?  I hope all goes well tomorrow.  Take care  >hugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Sunny Clouds on May 16, 2018, 11:39:44 PM
I'll be thinking of you.

 >bighugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on May 17, 2018, 05:13:37 AM
I'm really not good with phones. Apart from texts, even with my children. In my crisis plan it says that I find it extremely difficult to make phone so if I call for help then I really need help. They still tell you to make a hot drink and listen to some music, I've long since given up on out of hours.

I can't get to a shop and only £5 in the bank until tomorrow so no treats for me today. I'm really unsure how I will be following the assessment, history tells me, not good but today is a new day so I  mustn't assume that. Right now I'm anxious but it's containable. I feel sick but I'll take an antiemetic in an hour so.

Yes my GP is phoning me around 4pm. I wish it were earlier but her home visits take up her lunch break so that's her first pause. If I'm able I will check in later.

Did I read somewhere that you can get text updates on PIP updates or is that only people appealing? Waiting for the result will be hard. Again I barely slept last night, feeling too wired. When I  first got out of bed this morning my back was really painful. Is it terrible of me to think if my back continues to be this painful that it's a good thing today? I felt guilty even thinking that. I'm struggling to breathe I think I must be more anxious than I thought.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: KizzyKazaer on May 17, 2018, 08:54:43 AM
Quote
Did I read somewhere that you can get text updates on PIP updates or is that only people appealing?

I'm pretty sure it's appeals only ..

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Is it terrible of me to think if my back continues to be this painful that it's a good thing today? I felt guilty even thinking that.

Not terrible at all given the hoops that the system makes us jump through to 'prove' our impairments.  You want the assessor to get the measure of your problems as much as possible, what's wrong with that?

All the best, by the way  >x-fingers<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: ally on May 17, 2018, 09:27:31 AM
You can ring the dwp department that deals with your claim and request a copy of your f to f assessment.  The assessor files the claim with the assessor provider and they submit  it to the dwp.  It's usually available within a few days.  From the assessors report you can see how they've scored you, and, their comments.  The DM rarely veers from what the assessor has on the report.  Hopefully, it'll all be good.  If not, it'll give you more time to work out what to do next.  The mandatory consideration rarely changes anything, or, much.  Sunny was one of the exceptions  with her MR.  Please let us know how it went for you today.  I'll be thinking of you, and, sending good wishes, and, love.   >hugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on May 17, 2018, 12:00:40 PM
It was horrendous but not just because of the assessment and my back pain which was made far worse by doing the movements she was asking me to do. Last time I said to the nurse that some movements would be painful but that I would do them if necessary and her comment saying don't do them if it hurts you turned into Fiz declined to bend forwards. Which was accurate as I'd offered. So today I decided I'd do everything requested of me and it was the nurse stopping me from doing things if she saw it was painful so no one can say I declined to do anything.

But the awful thing is my daughter hadn't been answering any of my texts so I texted to ask her if she was okay yesterday and she replied she's just got a lot on her plate at the moment. All her academic work including dissertation are handed in and her next placement is yet to start so I didn't think it could be Uni and when she uses those words it normally means she's emotionally upset so this morning I texted her landlady to say I'm worried about my daughter and is she okay. The landlady replied she thinks it's a mixture of the anticlimax of submitting her work plus she's grieving the loss of her Grandad who is dying. My father in law lived with us as part of our family for most of my children's lives and when he developed dementia I was his carer. He is such a lovely man, I considered him to be my father. Soon after I separated with my ex in 2008 I invited fil and my 2 sons over for dinner and fil played Wii games for hours with the children, he laughed so much, he loved it. My ex by then had already moved into his now wife's house leaving our 16yo and 18yo sons to care for their Granddad who has dementia. My younger son who'd achieved A* GCSE's dropped out of college to care for his Granddad as he was up on and off through the night lighting the hob and turning the iron on, my son took low end drugs during this period to manage the stress. I'd actually wanted to stay in the house at separation so I could continue to care for fil but my ex refused to move so dd and I moved. 2 months later my ex moves in with another woman. Anyway after that one great visit from my fil in 2008 that he enjoyed so much, my ex found out about it and drove my 15yo dd off and very firmly told her that I was never allowed to see him again. Not wanting my dd distressed again I obeyed the orders but I've missed my fil so badly, he was a dad to me, I literally bathed him and cared for him in every way,  calming him when he was anxious about bizarre ideas.

Dd has been the only relative to visit him regularly in the nursing home my ex put him in, not even my ex went more than twice a year. His dementia has progressed that he recognises nobody and refuses to eat because he's already eaten, which he hadn't. Dementia is such a cruel disease. So I knew dd would take the loss badly when the time came as she more than the other two completely doted on him. Reading the text telling me he's moving had me sobbing for the half hour before the nurse turned up to do the assessment and it took me the first half of the assessment to get my mind off of fil and onto the assessment which reduced the sobbing to tears. I'd expected the tears. The nurse of course has no clue why I was sobbing, she'll have assumed it was the assessment. However I don't think I needed to tell her because I'm already in receipt of enhanced care and expect to stay there, rightly so. So I don't think explaining my emotional state was necessary or deceitful. 

I've taken morphine and tramadol to deal with the pain caused by the movements I was asked to do plus diazepam to calm myself down, I might take more diazepam or I might cry all day about fil. I have no idea why dd hasn't told me about fil herself. I have told the landlady that I won't be telling dd that I know about fil or she'll know we've been having a conversation about her. But I thanked the landlady for telling me because I can be grieving now and will be more able to be strong for dd when the time comes because I won't be shocked.

My younger son and daughter in law are on holiday in Russia at the moment. I hope the death doesn't happen before they return. He will also be greatly saddened because although he's only seen I'm 3 or 4 times since fil was put in a remote nursing home and my son doesn't drive, through the years we all lived together as a family, my younger son was always Granddads favourite and they were very close. And he gave up college to care for him and the result is a lifetime working nights on the living wage when he could have flown through college and uni and got a really decent job. He'd wanted to be a primary school teacher and male primary teachers tend to climb ranks faster than female teachers because female teachers tend to have babies. So he gave up a lot for his Granddad, willingly. My ex is a complete piece of shit and I very rarely swear.

Sorry for that completely irrelevant ramble. The nurse said the results usually take 4 weeks but are usually quicker. She said I might need of be reassessed face to face again or my reassessments may be paper based. She was nice, working at speed trying to work through questions at lightening speed. I'm not sure if that was for her benefit or mine because I was upset. My gut feeling is I will continue to get enhanced care and at least standard mobility. Obviously if I were to be awarded enhanced mobility, a car could be life changing. I can feel the morphine starting to work now, the pain is easing and the diazepam is slightly lessening the tension. Though spurging out all this emotion here might be cathartic and helpful in a way.

Once all the medication wears off I will know better how anxious I will be waiting for the assessment results though grieving the potential imminent loss of the wonderful man I consider to be my father will distract me from it.

If you've managed to read all that you deserve a medal. Thank you all for your kind thoughts, it helps so much knowing how other people here know the affect these wretched assessments have on us. I really don't want ever to have to go through this again.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Frances on May 17, 2018, 01:31:23 PM
  You should be so proud of how you are handling everything at the moment.
Life really can be so tough.
     Frances  >hugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: ally on May 17, 2018, 07:35:05 PM
I agree with Frances, you've done well to get through it, especially with the news of your much loved FIL.    I'm surprised the assessor asked you do movements.  I wasn't asked to do anything.  I remained in my wheelchair, she didn't examine me at all. It could've been due to my SCS, and, other disabilities I have. I was also due to have spinal surgery within weeks.  If you're up to it, why not ring, or, get someone to ring on your behalf, and, request a copy of your assessment from the f to f you've just had.  It should be with the DM at the end of next week.   It'll stop you worrying.  Once you know for definite what to expect.  Then, you can move on.  Take things one day at a time.  Try not to let it overwhelm you.  I wish you had someone to talk to.  I think being so isolated makes things seem so worse.  I hope by now your GP has rang, and, you've spoken to her.  Stay strong >hugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Sunny Clouds on May 17, 2018, 07:52:18 PM
Fiz - just a thought - is it possible your DD didn't tell you about how upset she was about your FiL because she knew you're dealing with all the stress of the assessment etc. and didn't want to make it worse?  Obviously, I don' t know enough about her or about your relationship with her to know whether this might be the case.  Just a possible explanation.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: SteveX on May 17, 2018, 08:20:19 PM
Fiz, we're proud of you and we love you! >hugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: bub1 on May 17, 2018, 08:21:14 PM
Aw fiz you have been through it.
My heart goes out to you.
You can now try and put the assessment behind you.
Sending you big hugs. Xx
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Monic1511 on May 17, 2018, 08:26:39 PM
 >bighugs<
 >chocolate< >tea<
Fiz, that's the trespass and social bit over with,  deep breathes and rest. 

You've survived, now try and dismiss it from your mind

take care
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on May 18, 2018, 08:21:00 AM
Trigger: mentions SH

Thank you everyone. I went into panic mode later yesterday because although the assessor made it clear I met the 50 metre criteria she didn't ask me anything about the emotional distress after any social encounter and I went into panic thinking I won't get the points which would add up to make the mobility award enhanced. But my GP when she phoned said that even if this assessor misses this, it was fully explained by me on my application for plus cited in both my CPN's evidence letter explaining I've SH after appointments and social interactions since 2014 and my GP said the same in her letter and the print out of my prescriptions included 6 types of wound care dressings so my GP assured me that if that is missed that bringing all that to the attention of the decision maker at a mandatory reconsideration would be enough to overturn the original decision at that stage and it won't need to get to tribunal stage. She says she's had several patients in my position who have had the decision changed at mandatory reconsideration and none gone to tribunal so I mustn't worry. It is a worry though as I couldn't get to the courts physically or emotionally. But my GP has more experience than me so I must listen to her. I didn't think to talk about it with the assessor because my mind was on my fil.

Sunny, my dd does know I'm reapplying for PIP due to change of circumstances but I've not told her anything more and she doesn't know anything about the assessment this week. I expect she's under instruction from my ex not to tell me as he won't allow me to go to the funeral. I spoke a couple of sentences with her this morning on messenger and she's definitely very low.

My CPN is due here Thursday and I might ask her to phone the DWP for me. Does she ask for a copy of the report or the decision that may have been made? Or both? And I'm unsure of the phone number, hopefully it will be on the application form somewhere.

I've only had one PIP assessment before and that time the assessor had a copy of my application form and my evidence letters in front of her as well as the computer she was typing my answers into. This time this assessor only came with a laptop and no paperwork so I'm unsure how she will marry up all the paper evidence with the questions she asked me. She didn't ask me anything about how I respond emotionally to going out which are questions on the form. I'm very confused by the system.

Again, thank you so much for your support, it's been immensely helpful.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: ally on May 18, 2018, 05:32:08 PM
I got my pip results around 3 weeks.  However, I was told it could take up to 6 weeks.  It depends on how busy they are.  Therefore, the decision from the DM won't be ready until then.  The assessors report that she sends to the DM should be ready by the end of next week.  The DM rarely veers from what the assessor puts on her form.  Therefore, it'll give you an idea what to expect when you receive the brown envelope from the dwp.  Ring the department thats dealing with your claim, it should be on the application form, and, asked for a copy of your f to f assessment.  Hopefully, all will go well.  >hugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Monic1511 on May 18, 2018, 08:41:09 PM
Fiz
if you get traumatised by the delivery of a DWP letter I would just wait until the decision letter arrives.

If you phone for the medical report before the decision maker has even looked at it then you will have the stress of a phone call,
a week - 10 days later you will get the report  - more stress as its a dwp letter.
You can't challenge the report until the decision maker has made a decision
You receive the decision letter - more stress or maybe not.


Alternatively you can try an put it aside until the letter arrives at you house and have a meltdown then.

Decision time can be 6 - 13 weeks so my advice would be live for today and try and ignore what has happened yesterday.

 >hugs<

Monic
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: ally on May 18, 2018, 10:25:06 PM
Monic is right  try and put it out of your mind until the dwp letter arrives from the DM.  I'm not Fizz, so was advising on what I would do.  I always face things head on.  I hate waiting for results of anything.  I'd much rather know now, then, I can move on.  Everyone is different.  Therefore, fizz, it's up to you to decide what's best for you.  Take care  >hugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on May 19, 2018, 09:03:13 AM
Yes I think you're right,  I should just wait. Nothing I can do before the DWP letter arrives can change anything and if it's not a good result that'll only upset me having to wait for the DWP letter before I can respond. The assessor said that it's a 4 week wait for the DWP letter but often comes sooner. I'm thinking she's giving fairly sure guidelines because she knows how long it takes her to get the full report to the DWP.  Results may get from a home assessor to the DWP faster than from an assessment centre where there are a few assessors. I'm only guessing, it's just she seemed sure of the time line and she said that without me asking. Time will tell. I'll certainly not be watching for the postman for a couple more weeks at the earliest. Sometimes I can't pick the post up because it's too painful. I might bite the bullet and try and ask someone to pick it up and hand it to me if I can't do it.

I am feeling really low. I suspect it's a fallout reaction to the stress of the assessment.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on May 20, 2018, 03:41:12 AM
My father in law died peacefully at yesterday morning. My children don't want me at the funeral saying it would be too awkward. I'm sure they don't realise how close I was to him, they just see me as not a blood  relative so assume I won't feel the same.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: KizzyKazaer on May 20, 2018, 11:59:15 AM
Sending my condolences, Fiz - and you should certainly attend the funeral if that's what you really want to do.  Who do your children think they are, to try and dissuade you from going?! It's not a decision for them.  Any 'awkwardness' will be their problem.  Not yours.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: ally on May 20, 2018, 01:35:32 PM
I think the same as Kizzy.  I'm sorry for your loss, but, if you want to pay your respects to your FIL, then, that's entirely up to you.  As said before, I'm not you.  However, I wouldn't allow anyone dictate to me what I could, or, could not do.  Do what you feel is best for you.  >hugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on May 20, 2018, 06:25:50 PM
I've spent a lot of the day in tears. I accepted that it was better that I didn't attend the funeral, my ex is incredibly angry, controlling and abusive and is the cause of my PTSD and he's convinced his relatives that I and the children have wronged him in some way, probably to illicit sympathy which is a strong need of his. My children have not had so much as a happy birthday said on their Facebook page from close relatives of my ex so I think that is best avoided for everyone's sake, mine included. But this morning I asked dd which funeral home fil is in and she asked why. I said that I'd like to go and see him in the chapel of rest to say my goodbyes and bring some closure and dd said no, that wouldn't be appropriate. That hurt. But I've been texting my unofficial foster Mum and she's helped me realise that when I last saw fil ten years ago he had dementia and was confused but he was physically well and he knew who everybody was and he loved socialising. But since then the progression of the dementia had left him not knowing anyone not even the slightest recognition but worst of all over this last year fil refused his meals adamant that he'd already eaten. I think he's a third of the weight of when I last saw him and dd posted a photo on Facebook of fil's hand in hers and the hand is skeletal. So it's better that I remember the man I last saw. I think there is a consensus that I should find a way of commemorating and celebrating his life on my own but I can't think of anything. I'm not the light a candle type person. So I shall have to think of some way that I feel right, remembering him.

My children have no clue why I'm upset as I have hardly seen him, I did chat to him at ds2's wedding in 2003 which was nice though this was spotted and xh dragged him away. I've put a post on Facebook saying how much I will always love and miss him with a photo when he was out with my family with a big smile on his face. My children may be cross as it seems to be inappropriate for me to be grieving but I'm leaving the post there as it's the least I can do. It's been a painful day and I think some sort of commemoration would help. If I can think of something.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: ally on May 20, 2018, 07:30:48 PM
Wait a few days until funeral is over, then, put flowers on his grave, or, in memorial garden.  You don't need to put name on card to say who flowers are from.  In that way, you're paying your respects without repucussions, or, confrontation.  Alternatively, plant something in your garden for rememberance.  These ones mean innocence in the soul of the departed, they're associated with funerals.   A rose tree, daffodils, tulips,lilies or  hydrangea.  >rose<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on May 21, 2018, 07:28:07 AM
Warning, mentions SH.

I spent a long time with a paramedic and student paramedic last night (don't ask) who at first suggested I phone around the local funeral homes and go anyway to see fil but once realising xh is the cause of the PTSD and could harm me but more likely take his anger out on the children she said not. She suggested writing fil a letter saying all the things that I would love to have said to him during the last 10 years if I'd been allowed to see him. That'll be a painful exercise but might reduce the hurt I feel over being prevented by my xh to have any contact with fil. We also talked about getting something to commemorate him and I've wondered if I could find someone who makes personalised garden knomes. If I can I'd like one with a Saints shirt on with fil's name on the back. Fil loved football and had a Saints season ticket for many years until he was too ill to go. So I've some ideas for things to do at a set point. I need to be calmer and less raw than the pain is now though. The paramedic was so lovely though, spending a long time talking to me about things that would help me process the death and deal with the grief, long after she'd finished what she was here for.

I said I feel guilty for the cost to the NHS as the dressings I'm prescribed are expensive. She said I must never feel guilty for using what I need plus I've saved the NHS money by not going to hospital and I also save NHS money because I remove my own sutures and don't see a nurse. How come people have an ability to always be positive?
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: SteveX on May 21, 2018, 08:10:51 PM
My thoughts are with you, Fiz and Kizzy.  >bighugs<
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on May 23, 2018, 10:30:36 AM
I had a text this morning from the DWP saying they've received my consultation report and that I should hear from them within 4 weeks. The message says meanwhile do not contact them unless there's a change of circumstances. Now they have it, I can't see why it would take ages to make a decision, it's not like they're going to spend days reading it?

Good to know it's there though.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Sunny Clouds on May 23, 2018, 03:49:52 PM
It takes time because of staff cutbacks, so it's sitting in an in-tray or in-box somewhere.  I struggle to cope with the DWP but when I come close to the end of my tether, I thank my lucky stars I don't have to work there.
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Monic1511 on May 23, 2018, 08:08:11 PM
Hi Fiz

the text message is their way of saying we have all the documents received in our mail, we have scanned documents to the decision maker.  What they don't say is that there are probably 4 decision makers for about 20 different postcodes. 
As Sunny says I am glad I don't work at the dwp and there is very little chance that I would have to work there.   My friend works there and says there are 4 staff to deal with all the direct deductions for London,  its no wonder they go off sick, 

Try and put it aside and focus on your own health and dealing with the grief.
 >bighugs< >dove<
Monic
Title: Re: Refused home visit requested
Post by: Fiz on May 24, 2018, 08:21:38 AM
Thank you. Someone advised me to request a copy of the assessor's report so I've done that. That should arrive 2 weeks before the DWP letter.

My council has announced today that they are just about to start changing all qualifying benefit claimants over to UC. I'm planning on requesting my housing benefit continue to be paid directly to my LA due to my mental health problems and difficulties managing money. How else will it affect me? Am I right in thinking PIP isn't part of UC?

If I request that my HB is paid directly to the LA, then the money I receive should be the same as I'm receiving from my IR ESA? Including the supplements added to it? Or will the change over to UC mean that I will be receiving less money?

Sorry to switch to a different subject entirely, it was just a bit of a shock to find out today that my county is now switching everyone over to UC and I haven't a clue how that will affect me.

I can provide plenty of evidence that I need my HB to be paid directly to the LA.