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Forum => Disability Q and A => Topic started by: bulekingfisher on December 05, 2011, 05:52:07 PM

Title: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: bulekingfisher on December 05, 2011, 05:52:07 PM
Yesterday I used the disabled person's toilet in TESCO'S Askmbar York but 3 mile's to the next near'st in Front street Acomb York but while rushing there in my buggy I wet myself + my Question is why ca'nt we have more disabled person's toilet+s not all disabled live in a residental home as we want to keep our IDENITY as we were born with it (we are people NOT bloody unit's/number's to be pushed around like stick's of furniture)

This is the Q+A page, so  can we have a petion page to send to the govt it might change nothing but at least we will of registerd our complaunt
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: sherbs on December 05, 2011, 08:21:00 PM
Bulekingfisher

I absolutely understand, i have had a few near misses, urghh!!, what really annoys me is when children and their parents use the disabled toilets, like they cant use the usual toilets, whats that all about ??, and i dont mean babies being changed, but 5 / 6 yr old children and their parents.  >steam<
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Mistynow on December 05, 2011, 08:46:52 PM
I also totally understand, we have to plan our outings around distance to toilets.

What really winds me up is tourist cities that lock up the Disabled Toilets in the evening, I have phoned Canterbury Civic amenties on numerous occasions on that subject as due to being a conservation area many cafes/restaurants/bars don't have permission/room to install disabled loos, our undignified solution as suggested by a district nurse is to have a bedpan in the car which himself can slide me onto.......

as for mothers and buggies sharing the toilets with their changing facilities, wish they would put the nappies in the receptacles provided.....
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: auntieCtheM on December 05, 2011, 08:51:13 PM
I would think that the disabled toilets are large enough for mum plus buggy plus shopping plus children; all can get in there together do to the necessary.  That is why they use the disabled. 

But I do object to the disabled loos also having the baby changing unit in them
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Dic Penderyn on December 06, 2011, 10:08:05 AM
I would think that the disabled toilets are large enough for mum plus buggy plus shopping plus children; all can get in there together do to the necessary.  That is why they use the disabled. 

But I do object to the disabled loos also having the baby changing unit in them

So they just use them because they are a convenience.
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: ilovepinkandpurple on December 06, 2011, 10:37:35 AM
If i am out shopping in a shopping center and all the other toilets are full and i really have to go badly and cant wait i use the disabled toilets if they are empty
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: bulekingfisher on December 06, 2011, 11:10:50 AM
Hello Mistynow

I thought all disabled person's toilet's could only be opened  by R.A.D.E.R key's had to be bought by disabled people only from the local council so how can they justify putting baby changing facilty's in there. Also if disabled people let an A.B relitve use/borrow their key can the disabled person be finned/have the key consfacted/removed from their supervison as it could be called living of im-moral earning's
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: fairysparkle on December 06, 2011, 11:28:12 AM
Radar keys can be bought and are used for some toilets, not all. No, there are no fines given in these circumstances.

I agree re parent and child stuff - I mean it's madness to have them share facilities with changing babies, but that's understandable. Taking in an AB child when you are an AB parent and there are other toilets nearby is not on. It's not a great lesson to teach them.
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Hurtyback on December 06, 2011, 11:33:50 AM
I know that some AB mothers use the disabled toilets when sons are too old to use lady's toilets but still too young to want them in the gents on their own - and, of course, vice verse with AB fathers and female children.
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Dark_Divinity on December 06, 2011, 01:59:15 PM
So what has happened to the number of baby changing places then?

Isn't there enough places to change babies then?

So then number of disabled toilets and baby changing places needs to be increased and put in the right places...

Which more or all of the disabled toilets only accessible through the RADAR key...
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Sofie on December 06, 2011, 02:03:46 PM
Radar keys can be bought and are used for some toilets, not all. No, there are no fines given in these circumstances.

When you buy a radar key from radar, you don't have to provide any proof that you have a disability. I have heard of someone using the disabled toilets because they're cleaner. >angry<

I will use a disabled toilet if I am that desperate and there's no other toilet nearby.
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: wheelydad on December 06, 2011, 07:54:02 PM
Many years ago I bought my RADAR key from my 'then' local council, and had to show my Blue Badge to prove that I was eligible.
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Sean on December 06, 2011, 08:21:54 PM
I knew someone with vision impairment who bought a load of RADAR keys for 1, possibly from the RNIB, and proceeded to sell them for a fiver each!
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Otter on December 06, 2011, 08:51:05 PM
the ratio in the UK for councils is to provide a urinal/loo for every 10,000 persons and a db loo for every 100,000 - meaning there are only 600 of them in the country- little wonder you got caught out Bule
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: ilovepinkandpurple on December 06, 2011, 09:08:21 PM
I thoughtdisabled toilets are only for people who use a wheelchair Sean. wonder why RNIB give them out
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Sofie on December 06, 2011, 09:13:53 PM
They're for disabled people - not just wheelchair users... RNIB probably gave them out because blind and partially sighted people have just as much right to use disabled toilets as other disabled people. Many people with visual impairments tend to have other disabilities too.
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: ilovepinkandpurple on December 06, 2011, 09:16:08 PM
Why do they always just have a wheelchair on the door. 
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: sherbs on December 06, 2011, 09:17:12 PM
Pink

Blind people are disabled people,  they cant see, or are partially sighted, so of course they can use them.

Actually Disabled toilets can be used by anyone who feels like abusing them.  They are not policed or patrolled, so it is up to the individual to think, "hey actually i should not be using these toilets" much like disabled parking bays, people seem to just park in them as it is convenient for them to nip into the shops without having to walk too far.

Anyway, thats for another thread, back to the toilet stuff,  >whistle<
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Sofie on December 06, 2011, 09:21:09 PM
the ratio in the UK for councils is to provide a urinal/loo for every 10,000 persons and a db loo for every 100,000 - meaning there are only 600 of them in the country- little wonder you got caught out Bule

That's madness. Obviously, not every single person in the UK will be out and will need the toilet at the same; but still, that is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: ilovepinkandpurple on December 06, 2011, 09:27:25 PM
I only use the disabled toilets if the the other ones are full sometimes Sherbs because i have a week bladder and i cant wait.
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Sofie on December 06, 2011, 09:44:10 PM
But I do object to the disabled loos also having the baby changing unit in them

How else would you change a disabled child? Floor is generally filthy and not always practical.

In one of the shopping centres, there are 3 disabled toilets. Only one has a radar lock on it. I also noticed today that the disabled / changing room isn't radar locked either.
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Mistynow on December 06, 2011, 09:49:56 PM
Well I found a toilet a couple of years ago which had an 'Invalids Only' not a 'Disabled' sign on the door which needed a RADAR key, the toilet was a horrible metal thing and had those old fashioned squares of loo paper in a box on the wall  ;-)

Wonderous how even when the door was left open no A.B.s went in it   >whistle<
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Mistynow on December 06, 2011, 09:56:52 PM


How else would you change a disabled child?


hhmmmm with years of experience I think the vast majority are not disabled children, what is most annoying to me is that Bluewater has numerous toilets, very many disabled toilets along with numerous mother/father and baby feeding and changing rooms and a high dependency room with hoists,  changing bed for adult or child etc ...

and the AB mothers and buggies still use the disabled toilets.....
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Yvette on December 06, 2011, 10:46:58 PM
So they just use them because they are a convenience.    >lol< >lol< >lol<

Well done, John.   


[Recognise the American pun?]
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: auntieCtheM on December 07, 2011, 12:56:38 AM
Yvette, I thought that was a Cypriot or Greek name for the smallest room in the house.

 But all the same *snigger*
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: ditchdwellers on December 07, 2011, 10:50:00 AM
My local council has started to close some of the public loos in a cost cutting measure.  There has been a lot of outrage but to no avail.  Has anyone else experienced this locally?
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Dark_Divinity on December 07, 2011, 01:53:43 PM
My local council has started to close some of the public loos in a cost cutting measure.  There has been a lot of outrage but to no avail.  Has anyone else experienced this locally?

Yes, the old toilet blocks (for both male and female) in King's Square are now closed.
The only public toilets I am aware of are in The Eastgate Shopping Centre in Gloucester.

http://intoeastgate.co.uk/store_finder/floor_plans (http://intoeastgate.co.uk/store_finder/floor_plans)

There is a lift, stairs and escalator to get up to where the toilets are.

If for some reason you are too far away or cannot get up to where the toilets are then you will have to pop into a nearby business if they have their toilets open to the public. Some of the businesses resist toilet usage to paying customers only, and some have put up a notice about charging for public usage of their toilets.
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Peggythepirate on December 07, 2011, 02:11:56 PM
"I thoughtdisabled toilets are only for people who use a wheelchair Sean. wonder why RNIB give them out"

A slightly narrow view.

Just because the universally recognised sign for 'disabled' is a wheelchair it doesn't mean that all disabled people are wheelchair users.

Accessible toilets are for people who need them. This includes wheelchair users, people who need someone to help them, people who need the grab rails, people whose disability means they can't wait, people who can't climb the stairs to the ordinary toilets, people who need the extra space (for equipment, adjusting their clothes, performing 'medical' procedures injections and other, perhaps intimate, procedures) etc etc. Some of these people are blind.

One third of babies born blind have additional impairments.

I'm sure that the RNIB only give RADAR keys to people that need them. Similarly, local authorities issue RADAR keys. They give them to people who need them, not to everybody in their area.

Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Sofie on December 07, 2011, 02:39:49 PM
I've not heard of RNIB giving out RADAR keys. But yeah, a blind person has as much right to use a disabled toilet as any other disabled person.
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: oldtone27 on December 07, 2011, 02:41:01 PM
I assist VI people and find many prefer to use a 'disabled' toilet. Although they may be able to use 'ordinary' toilets, physically, some have diffculty navigating a washroom and finding a vacant stall.

Most disabled toilets are directly inside the main door which makes access more straightforward. This is besides any other medical needs they may have, as has been mentioned.
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: ilovepinkandpurple on December 07, 2011, 04:35:11 PM
"I thoughtdisabled toilets are only for people who use a wheelchair Sean. wonder why RNIB give them out"

A slightly narrow view.

Just because the universally recognised sign for 'disabled' is a wheelchair it doesn't mean that all disabled people are wheelchair users.

Accessible toilets are for people who need them. This includes wheelchair users, people who need someone to help them, people who need the grab rails, people whose disability means they can't wait, people who can't climb the stairs to the ordinary toilets, people who need the extra space (for equipment, adjusting their clothes, performing 'medical' procedures injections and other, perhaps intimate, procedures) etc etc. Some of these people are blind.

One third of babies born blind have additional impairments.

I'm sure that the RNIB only give RADAR keys to people that need them. Similarly, local authorities issue RADAR keys. They give them to people who need them, not to everybody in their area.
i know not all disabled people are wheelchair users >doh<ijust had it in my head that because of the wheelchair sign that they where only for people who use a wheelchair >doh<
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: bulekingfisher on December 07, 2011, 05:02:04 PM
Hello Otter

Thankyou for informing me about the ratio of toilets council's have to provide but it smack's of discrimantion + that implie's council's are guilty of hate crime toward's disabled peopl. The only justifation would be put us in residental home'e + they are instution's like prison's + we have'nt committed a crime unlike Hate crime's that council's can not justify
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Sofie on December 07, 2011, 05:46:20 PM
"I thoughtdisabled toilets are only for people who use a wheelchair Sean. wonder why RNIB give them out"

A slightly narrow view.

Just because the universally recognised sign for 'disabled' is a wheelchair it doesn't mean that all disabled people are wheelchair users.

Accessible toilets are for people who need them. This includes wheelchair users, people who need someone to help them, people who need the grab rails, people whose disability means they can't wait, people who can't climb the stairs to the ordinary toilets, people who need the extra space (for equipment, adjusting their clothes, performing 'medical' procedures injections and other, perhaps intimate, procedures) etc etc. Some of these people are blind.

One third of babies born blind have additional impairments.

I'm sure that the RNIB only give RADAR keys to people that need them. Similarly, local authorities issue RADAR keys. They give them to people who need them, not to everybody in their area.
i know not all disabled people are wheelchair users >doh<ijust had it in my head that because of the wheelchair sign that they where only for people who use a wheelchair >doh<

But the wheelchair is the symbol for disabled, (why?) yet, many other groups of disabled people are perfectly entitled to use those other facilities. Do find it odd that you make the statement about thinking that only wheelchair users can use them and then say that you use them due to bladder problems.
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: ilovepinkandpurple on December 07, 2011, 05:59:54 PM
I said i only use disabled toilets if all the other toilets are full >doh<because i cant wait for a ordinary toilet in a que of people. i said i always had it in my head that because of the wheelchair sign disabled toilets where only for people who use wheel chairs.because thats what the sign has a wheelchair whats odd about that >doh<
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: ilovepinkandpurple on December 07, 2011, 06:02:43 PM
i didnt say it the way you said it in the last bit of your post Sofie >doh< thats not what i said >rolleyes<
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Sofie on December 07, 2011, 06:07:17 PM
i said i always had it in my head that because of the wheelchair sign disabled toilets where only for people who use wheel chairs.because thats what the sign has a wheelchair

Going by your logic, then only wheelchair users can use disabled parking bays. >doh<
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Sunshine Meadows on December 07, 2011, 06:11:00 PM
Sofie,

This is how I read what Pink said, she assumed that the wheelchair sign meant wheelchair users only, so even though she herself is disabled she only used the disabled toilet if desperate. Since she first posted that she has recognised her mistake and now knows that the wheelchair sign means any disabled person.

Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Sunshine Meadows on December 07, 2011, 06:16:29 PM
As a disabled wheelchair user, I do not have an objection to a able bodied person using a disabled person's toilet if they are in real need and desperate.

I do think kindness and consideration in times of need can encourage other people to behave in the same way. I know there are abled bodied people who dont give tuppence for other people's needs , but there are also people who do care. The problem is when someone who is able bodied thinks they have as much right to use a disabled toilet as anyone else.
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: sherbs on December 07, 2011, 09:10:14 PM
I only use the disabled toilets if the the other ones are full sometimes Sherbs because i have a week bladder and i cant wait.

Pinky, I wasnt getting at you for using the disabled toilets,   >hugs< you should be able to use them if you have a weak bladder, please dont think i was being nasty  >hugs<
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: sherbs on December 07, 2011, 09:15:54 PM
As a disabled wheelchair user, I do not have an objection to a able bodied person using a disabled person's toilet if they are in real need and desperate.

I do think kindness and consideration in times of need can encourage other people to behave in the same way. I know there are abled bodied people who dont give tuppence for other people's needs , but there are also people who do care. The problem is when someone who is able bodied thinks they have as much right to use a disabled toilet as anyone else.

Totally agree Sunshine
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: ilovepinkandpurple on December 07, 2011, 10:21:35 PM
I only use the disabled toilets if the the other ones are full sometimes Sherbs because i have a week bladder and i cant wait.

Pinky, I wasnt getting at you for using the disabled toilets,   >hugs< you should be able to use them if you have a weak bladder, please dont think i was being nasty  >hugs<
   >hugs< >rainbow<
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: AndMac on December 09, 2011, 03:23:42 AM
I am capable of using a standard cubicle toilet but in Darlington's Cornmill Centre the non - accessible toilets are down two flights of surprisingly steep and slippy stairs. There is a lift if you are prepared to wait 10 minutes for it, and the RADAR  accessible toilet is alongside the lift. Last time I used the accessible toilet a woman in late middle age was walking past as I came out of said loo,  clearly headed for the downstairs loos.
She was quite well built and appreciated my asking 'Would you like to use this one?', saying her knees didn't cope well with the stairs.  No, she wasn't desperate, but those stairs are no joke for anyone with even slightly impaired mobility.
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: gorbut on December 09, 2011, 06:31:58 AM
Our council has closed all the public toilets maintained by them. There are still some in the shopping centres but they come under the management of the centres. They have agreements with certain shops and pubs to allow people to use their toilets even if they are not customers. There was a lot of protest about this but they still did it anyway. I think this is a backward step for civilisation and not what I was led to believe life would be like in the 21st century. I really shouldn't have read all that science fiction :)
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: catspjs on December 10, 2011, 03:13:39 PM
I thoughtdisabled toilets are only for people who use a wheelchair Sean. wonder why RNIB give them out

Disabled loos are for anyone with a "medical" need who needs them. althought most blind people are physicall able I can see (sorry not trying to be funny) that more room would be of benifit, especially to have space to lean their cane up without it falling or even room for their canine partner.  and normal loos can have hidden steps or trip obstacles too.

I have always had mobility issues and the tiny normaly loos have always been an issue even before I needed someone to help me when I was a walking wobbly and now a wheelie. 

seemly able bodied people with a hidden bladder/incontance urgency issue can also use them and keys are avalable on bladder webgroups.

I myself have just sent one to me 89year old aunt to use as my uncle has Altzimers and tends to wander off when she is in the ladies. so for his safety ( and to make sure he puts himself & clothing back together properly) they really need to stay together.

but I really do object to the parents with children older than 5 using them just coz the have lots of shopping or can fit every one in.  they dont even have the maners to let the waiting disabled and elderly go first.

and another pet hate is that the baby change (if it really needs to be there) is not disabled accessible for a disabled parent. it takes up room in our loo and we cant even make use of it. grrr

and dont get me started on people smoking in them >steam<

Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's.. THE RIGHT TO PEE PETITION
Post by: catspjs on December 10, 2011, 03:18:07 PM
dont know where I first saw this petition. may have been on ouch but Ive blogged it everyplace I visit.

If you feel strongly about the number and quality of disabled loos, klick the link below and sign the petition for better disabled looS and the right to pee with access..

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/15258 (http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/15258)
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Sofie on December 10, 2011, 04:00:15 PM
but I really do object to the parents with children older than 5 using them just coz the have lots of shopping or can fit every one in.  they dont even have the maners to let the waiting disabled and elderly go first.

I agree. Surely, at that age, the child is old enough to go toilet by themselves?

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and another pet hate is that the baby change (if it really needs to be there) is not disabled accessible for a disabled parent. it takes up room in our loo and we cant even make use of it. grrr

I've noticed this too. Another thing I've noticed, is that it looks (not a wheelchair user) as though you couldn't get your wheelchair into the toilet and have enough room. I'm sure someone (SashaQ?) mentioned this on the BBC a few times.
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Dark_Divinity on December 10, 2011, 07:06:55 PM
Signed.  :-)
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: SashaQ on December 10, 2011, 08:28:23 PM
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and another pet hate is that the baby change (if it really needs to be there) is not disabled accessible for a disabled parent. it takes up room in our loo and we cant even make use of it. grrr
I've noticed this too. Another thing I've noticed, is that it looks (not a wheelchair user) as though you couldn't get your wheelchair into the toilet and have enough room. I'm sure someone (SashaQ?) mentioned this on the BBC a few times.

Yes, I do talk about toilets rather a lot...

I was recently pleased to see a baby changing unit that was at wheelchair height in an accessible toilet, and there was a chair in there too, so everyone could use the unit, plus there was plenty of room for manoeuvre too.

I have encountered several "accessible" toilets that didn't have enough turning space for my wheelchair, though (with and without baby changing)... 

Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: bulekingfisher on December 14, 2011, 12:26:17 PM
Hello Otter

If council's sell R.A.D.A.R key's to Able Bodied people on ground's that they have to be fair (leval playing field's) then how can wheelchair's can get in to an AB person's toilet (my question is are local council's acting ill-legal + practizing hate crime ?) Also A.B toilets are dangous slipping on a wet floor after a drunk/drug user has just pee'd on the floor
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: bulekingfisher on December 14, 2011, 12:53:49 PM
Another problem with disabled loo's is getting close enough to put your key in the lock + it is easy to knock +crack the fiber glass shourd/nose cone because the weight of the battery cause's the buggy to move the buggy forward crashing in to the locked door + that cause's an increase in insurance payment's so local council's get away with BLUE MURDER  >angry< >angry< >angry< >angry< + that is another case of un-reported HATE CRIME talk about been persecutted
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: auntieCtheM on December 14, 2011, 10:58:58 PM
I've got a radar key as I am sometimes in towns travelling round in the caravan and at 5.00pm or slightly earlier they lock the loos on the assumption that everyone goes home to have tea at 4.00pm.

I found a place that sold them, walked in and bought one.  They did not ask for any identification or to see my blue badge.
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: catspjs on December 18, 2011, 02:14:20 PM
Another problem with disabled loo's is getting close enough to put your key in the lock + it is easy to knock +crack the fiber glass shourd/nose cone because the weight of the battery cause's the buggy to move the buggy forward crashing in to the locked door + that cause's an increase in insurance payment's so local council's get away with BLUE MURDER  >angry< >angry< >angry< >angry< + that is another case of un-reported HATE CRIME talk about been persecutted


nods head... thats even when the bother to put a handle/grab bar on the door.  dont deisgners stop to think how a person with zilch or little strength or mobility can open a heavy fire door with only the key.  I have bent 2 keys this way pulling open doors with no handle.    wary of putting in a complaint incase they remember the loos their at all and come along and shut it..
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: NeuralgicNeurotic on January 07, 2012, 10:17:20 PM
Why do they always just have a wheelchair on the door.

Not all of them only have the wheelchair symbol, Pink. The RADAR locked toilet in Central Station, Belfast has a rather nice symbol with a figure using two sticks superimposed over the usual sign.

As for the vexed question of parents taking children into adapted toilets, it's fair enough if that's where the baby changing facilities happen to be located, but I once had to wait for several minutes in serious discomfort while some woman let her young son play with the water in the sink. I felt like asking if, should I have pee'd on the floor, she'd have liked him to play with that too.  >angry<
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Sofie on January 08, 2012, 04:58:57 AM
was at remploy a few weeks ago and asked where the toilets were and got told to use the disabled one. It was much harder for me to lock the disabled toilet than the standard one.
Title: Re: Lack of Disabled Person's Toilet's
Post by: Lloydies on January 08, 2012, 08:16:39 PM
It's not just a lack of disabled toilets but any toilets as councils cutback & look at closing them (then the toilets are truly disabled-scuse the pun).
Locally living in a mainly tourist area by the sea the council decide that many toilets only need to be open for the holiday season.
Having bowel disease & continence issues i'm aware when planning any journey of all toilets available & am horrified to find them closed down.
I do usually use the disabled loos as the sink is available for cleaning up after any "accidents" as there's nothing worse than coming out of a normal cubicle with crap all over oneself :(
Fortunately these toilets tend to be maintained better although i always carry wetwipes & paper with me.
It really narks me when i come out of one of these toilets & get looked at as to why i'm using them, it's bad enough being told you're not old enough to also have the Leukaemia i have.
Radar keys are available free from most councils as i found out after paying several pounds by sending off for one years ago.