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Facts and fiction on welfare.
« on: February 12, 2013, 10:47:42 AM »
Popular attitudes towards spending on welfare claimants are often based on ignorance and prejudice, fed by politicians and the media.

The rising number of column inches dedicated to welfare spending has not improved the quality of debate. In fact, as new TUC-commissioned You Gov polling dramatically shows, public attitudes on social security are largely based on fiction.

People have fallen for the gross media stereotypes on welfare spending; a vast over-estimation of the amount spent on unemployed people, levels of benefit fraud, how much people receive and whether they are incentivised to work.

http://opinion.publicfinance.co.uk/2013/01/fact-and-fiction-on-welfare-spending/

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Re: Facts and fiction on welfare.
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2013, 08:02:34 PM »
Those who have tuned in to the BBC have 'learnt' today that an adult with 5 kids gets 1000 a week in benefits. Now, to be claiming anywhere near that amount, several of them would have to be severely disabled, which wasn't mentioned.

Child benefit is 20.30 a week for the eldest and 13.40 for each extra child. it therefore amouts to 73.90 a week. Child tax credit consists of 'family element' of 10.48 a week & 51.73 a week for each child, maximum; the total from Tax Credit (which is now paid INSTEAD of child allowances on parent's benefits) of 269.13. A parent on JSA would get 71 a week OR a maximum of 110 a week for 'sickness benefits'. Thus the total for a single parent with five kids is 412 (or 451 if they are incapable of work).

Not 1000. Nowhere near 1000,  yet that was what BBC news viewers were told.

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Re: Facts and fiction on welfare.
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2013, 09:25:30 PM »


Not 1000. Nowhere near 1000,  yet that was what BBC news viewers were told.

What BBC news? So fullfact can be put on the case.

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Re: Facts and fiction on welfare.
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2013, 09:43:43 PM »
It was mentioned in the BBC News in relation to the incident in which six children died in a fire started by their parents.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-21387791

(The video in this link doesn't include the full news broadcast)

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Re: Facts and fiction on welfare.
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2013, 12:24:00 AM »
I suspect they have included housing benefit when saying that  the family get 1000 per week.  Here in central london for example I pay just under 800 per month for a tiny, grotty one bed flat at the very cheapest end of the market, so a family home could easily be over 1500 per month.

part of the problem is that they nearly always quote the benefit amounts in millions - if they were required to also say what an average person receives, that might help
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Re: Facts and fiction on welfare.
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2013, 11:07:46 AM »
The claim was not  for 5 children but for 11 .......... 5 of them had moved out of the house and this was his problem ?

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Re: Facts and fiction on welfare.
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2013, 07:30:22 PM »
Hello

according to today's Independent it was 1000 per month not 1000 per week, that makes a big difference!

regards, Deb