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Title: Francesca Martinez attacks the government on Question Time
Post by: lankou on 14 Jun 2019 10:29AM
Video At Link:-


https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/1139288950525349888
Title: Re: Francesca Martinez attacks the government on Question Time
Post by: Sunshine Meadows on 15 Jun 2019 10:28AM
Thank you it is very good gives me chills.
Title: Re: Francesca Martinez attacks the government on Question Time
Post by: lankou on 15 Jun 2019 10:39AM
I find it significant that thus far no-one in the Tory government has challenged her comments.
Title: Re: Francesca Martinez attacks the government on Question Time
Post by: Sunny Clouds on 16 Jun 2019 12:56PM
I followed up watching the clip by going on iplayer to watch what the other panellists said in reply.  I was disappointed that the panel chair effectively changed the subject.  I wish I could say surprised rather than disappointed but I can't.

As to the lack of a challenge, if the comments had been that shocking but untrue, or believed by politicians to be untrue, then I would have expected an immediate response along the lines of "That's misleading.  If you were to read the report, you'd find that that's taken out of context.  The government has been taking steps to improve the situation for disabled people and Boris Johnson will blah, blah, blah..."

If any opposing parties/groups intended to do anything in opposition or in power, I would have expected a response along the lines of "The UN's reports are shocking and this is why we need a general election so that blah, blah, blah..."

However, the mere fact that Francesca spoke out so well gives me a glimmer of hope that our voices can be heard.  What I'm less than happy about is that I'm struggling to find mention of it in today's online papers but maybe Monday?

Mind you, I suppose I'd only expect to find it in left of centre outlets and there aren't many of those. 

Nevertheless, I want to hold onto some hope.
Title: Re: Francesca Martinez attacks the government on Question Time
Post by: Monic1511 on 16 Jun 2019 03:46PM
Hi
I think that the newspapers and journalists in general are so caught up in the tory party leadership and Brexit that they ignore everything else.  There have been several other issues but they only want to catch Boris Johnson out or witter on about Brexit. 
Title: Re: Francesca Martinez attacks the government on Question Time
Post by: Sunny Clouds on 16 Jun 2019 08:48PM
Going back to pre-internet days, even the tabloids didn't seem to rely quite so heavily on what, as online readers, we've come to think of as clickbait.  But now, even what used to be seen as serious media outlets seem to focus on it.

It probably sounds disproportionte, but I felt very niggly over a story not being reported in some mainstream outlets (and I did tell a couple about it).  It's not a disability story but I mention it here just to show my irritation over bias.  Certain outlets expressed outrage over the Grenfell Tower fire, and expressed, at least nominally, horror at racism expressed towards residents, whilst focussing a lot in their own stories on residents' ethnicity, countries of origin, religion etc.

Recently, half a dozen lads on their way home from a mosque during Ramadan saw a fire on what I think was about the eighth floor of a tower block.  They broke into the building and cleared it before the fire service was there to tackle the fire.  Having fasted all day, they were running up and down about 18 floors, knocking doors and helping people.

Well the fire brigade did their job excellently and the tower didn't burn down.  But where were the news stories in the media outlets who like to criticise other outlets for publicising seemingly endless islamophobic stories etc?  It would have been a wonderful uplift story even if it had just been told as half a dozen local lads with no mention of where they'd come from.

Likewise, there are outlets like the Guardian that like to maintain a veneer of caring about what's happening to people, a veneer of caring about the impact of austerity, a veneer of caring about disabled and disadvantaged people.  But I bet their editorial team will decide Francesca's succinct mini-speech isn't good enough clickbait.

My apologies for my negativity.  I feel incredibly negative right now, which is why little things like how Francesca spoke out is important to me.  As I type this, I remember that I must share it.

I don't do Twitter, though, and no longer use Facebook.  Emails it is, then.
Title: Re: Francesca Martinez attacks the government on Question Time
Post by: JLR2 on 17 Jun 2019 05:20AM
Hi
I think that the newspapers and journalists in general are so caught up in the tory party leadership and Brexit that they ignore everything else.  There have been several other issues but they only want to catch Boris Johnson out or witter on about Brexit.

Two thoughts Monic, first the government will be more than content for this distraction to continue as it draws away any attention to the mess of Universal credit and second it seems somewhat odd that whilst more or less everyone, the press  included, can see just how undemocratic it is to have 160,000 members of a political party decide who will be a country's prime minister they, the press are, or do not appear to be, in any great hurry to fight such imposition of another unelected prime minister on us.
Title: Re: Francesca Martinez attacks the government on Question Time
Post by: Norrin Radd on 21 Jun 2019 11:41AM
I find Question Time really biased. Not because the panel doesn't have a good mix of people, but they constantly move on from important questions and points that people raise. We'll never get answers regarding UC, spending cuts, or Brexit. I think the best thing to do is to challenge the government directly. Go on marches, speak to MPs, etc. We could also protest the media as well. Especially the BBC. Every side claims the BBC are biased against them, but I think that whomever they're against, they don't let people speak.