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Title: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: devine63 on 15 Jun 2012 02:01PM
Hi all

I came across this story about a British police officer and his family who planned to migrate to Australia - but were prevented from doing so, apparently because his daughter is autistic

http://www.news.com.au/business/worklife/shattered-dreams-police-recruit-denied-entry-over-daughters-autism/story-e6frfm9r-1226393550335   

regards, Deb

Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: RedAndBlue on 15 Jun 2012 02:22PM
Sadly that's not a one off. Even something like diabetes will block you from entering Australia with the plan to live there. Extended Holidays can even be rejected, depending on condition/medication vs plans.

I had a friend in 6th Form college whose family wanted to emigrate to Australia before she started secondary school, but couldn't get the visas because her little brother had CP.

Can't quite believe a country that prides itself on leading medical technology can be so ableist.
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: oldtone27 on 15 Jun 2012 02:53PM
I am not sure something similar is not proposed for this country. This government's recent plans include increasing minimum earnings in an attempt to avoid immigrant spouses being a 'burden' on the state but also I thought I read about some health criteria.

Not sure if that has been finalised but I suspect reasoning is similar.
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: Dic Penderyn on 15 Jun 2012 03:37PM
It's nothing new either many years ago prior to world war II my step father's dad emigrated to the USA not long after getting there he lost his sight so he and his family where put on a ship and deported back to the UK.
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: Otter on 15 Jun 2012 05:04PM
it is the same for all commonwealth countries including the UK
it took me decades to get a UK passport, even though the rest of my family qualifed in the then usual time frame
the USA has a simillar policy
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: Sunny Clouds on 15 Jun 2012 05:28PM
Nothing new...

My great, great grandfather had an accident down the pit leaving him minus two limbs.

He was one of twenty children (yes, twenty - two widow/ers  with 6 & 7 kids plus 7 more together, total 20).

The other 19 emigrated to Australia and left him behind.

Fortunately, he might have lost limbs, but he didn't lose his baby-making kit or I wouldn't be here to tell his story.

Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: devine63 on 15 Jun 2012 07:08PM
The really appalling part was that the girl was going to work, so she would not have been a "burden on the state"
regards, Deb
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: KizzyKazaer on 15 Jun 2012 07:48PM
Considering that the non-indigenous population of Australia has much of its roots in penal colonies - criminals transported there from the UK starting way back in 1770  - I think they are being extraordinarily precious about such matters....
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: auntieCtheM on 15 Jun 2012 10:55PM
It is in their genes.  There used to be a White Australia Policy.  Noone was allowed in if they were not of white descent.  That was changed not that many years ago.
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: Sunny Clouds on 16 Jun 2012 05:14PM
I gather from my brother that I have misled you woefully.  There were only 19 children in great-great-grandad's family and he did go to Australia but they sent him back.   >lol<
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: KizzyKazaer on 16 Jun 2012 05:33PM
Who was it that famously said, 'I wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member'?
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: RedAndBlue on 16 Jun 2012 05:59PM
Apparently it was Groucho Marx. Wise man!
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: Dic Penderyn on 16 Jun 2012 10:15PM
From what I have read only about 40% of those sentenced to transportation ever made it to Australia around 50% died on the prison hulks before leaving the UK and many then perished in transit.

So then as now only the lucky few make it to Australia.
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: devine63 on 16 Jun 2012 10:46PM
and those most likely to die on the voyage would of course those who were poor, sick and disabled ....
regards, Deb
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: Dic Penderyn on 17 Jun 2012 05:44PM
exactly


Regards John
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: stalwart on 18 Jun 2012 12:39PM
Considering that the non-indigenous population of Australia has much of its roots in penal colonies - criminals transported there from the UK starting way back in 1770  - I think they are being extraordinarily precious about such matters....
That's a common misconception, there were many soldiers who settled plus people looking for a new life free from persecution including lutheran  germans.

I think you'll find that most countries have similar regulations, it's the way it was interpreted that was harsh.  Btw, can you imagine a British  Civil servant doing anything different?
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: ChrisPage on 18 Jun 2012 01:05PM
I'm glad I was born Disabled, because I nearly ended up being Australian - which would've been infinitely worse!  >biggrin<
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: Sunny Clouds on 18 Jun 2012 06:21PM
They can't help what they're like - we sent all our prejudices and hang-ups over there with our migrants!  >lol<

Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: ChrisPage on 21 Jun 2012 01:46PM
I must state clearly for the record that I have never tied a Kangaroo - or any other Marsupial - down, sport.
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: oldtone27 on 21 Jun 2012 02:18PM
Ah, but at the risk of getting personal, do you play with your didgeridoo?  >devil<
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: Sunny Clouds on 21 Jun 2012 05:33PM
The bigger question about Australians and disability is whether having three legs amounts to disability or super-ability.  For those that haven't contemplated this conundrum, here's Jake the Peg explaining his problems with his extra leg.

http://youtu.be/KJleJbn9G6Y
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: KizzyKazaer on 21 Jun 2012 05:48PM
You chaps  >devil<

Sunny, you beat me to it  >lol< 

Now that will be my earworm for the rest of the evening  >doh<
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: Jockice on 21 Jun 2012 08:01PM
I used to think that song was called Jake The Pake.
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: SashaQ on 22 Jun 2012 08:35PM
So did I
Title: Re: fancy migrating to Australia? Not if your family includes a disabled person
Post by: bulekingfisher on 02 Jul 2012 12:40PM
Hello Stalwart

I am email friends with a disabled English man who Emigrated to Austrila he retired out there + he suffer's from white knuckle brought on by useing a drill + riverting machine so disabled people can get in so it is NOT all doom + gloom