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Forum => Welfare Rights => Topic started by: Breeze on 20 Sep 2012 09:41AM

Title: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Breeze on 20 Sep 2012 09:41AM
Hello,

I'm sure this has been covered many, many times so please feel free to direct me to a link if that would be better.  I had such helpful advice when i last asked a question on here i wondered if anyone could help again please?

I was put into the Support Group when transferred from Incapacity Benefit which i've been on for quite a number of years now.  I was put on Contribution based ESA and although knowing there is Contribution based and Income based, i didn't really think anymore of it.  However, having seen a post on here about help with winter fuel payments, i rang my fuel supplier to see if i could get any help.  I was told only if i was on Income based ESA, which would allow me to get £130 off my winter bills and that Contribution based doesn't qualify me for anything. I'm not sure what the rules are as which one you are put on?

I also get help with free prescriptions but am wondering - will this now change since my transfer?  It seems housing benefit is still the same so far at least, but wondering if there will be a change in that also?  Rather concerned what changes i may encounter since this transfer?

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: KizzyKazaer on 20 Sep 2012 11:19AM
Hi Breeze - when you were receiving Incapacity Benefit (IB), did you also get an Income Support (IS) top-up with that?  Income-based ESA is now the equivalent of IS for people unfit for work - it can be paid on its own, for those who've not met the National Insurance conditions for the contribution-based benefit (ESA-C), or it can be paid as well as ESA-C.  Obviously I don't know enough about your individual circumstances to say if you might be entitled to the latter kind - it depends on various factors like; do you live alone or not, how much do you have in savings, is your partner (if you have one) employed or not, what rates of DLA (if any) are in payment.  And so on and so forth!

Free prescriptions and Housing Benefit, however, are still available if you have a low income (in your case, I am assuming that your sole income is ESA -C).  Can you remember if you filled in a form called an ESA3?  That's the one used by the decision maker to assess whether you are entitled to an income-based addition....
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Sofie on 20 Sep 2012 11:20AM
Why do you get help with free prescriptions? Is it income or due to your condition?

You can't choose what E.S.A you're put on. If you're in the support group and E.S.A. is your only income, you may get the enhance disability premium. This is income based and will entitle you to the cold weather payments, the fuel thing, etc.
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: KizzyKazaer on 20 Sep 2012 11:27AM
Sofie, I think we posted at the same time - I have already explained about the free prescriptions, this might be granted according to the NHS Low Income Scheme.


Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: KizzyKazaer on 20 Sep 2012 11:32AM
Also, the Enhanced Disability Premium applies only if the claimant (or partner, or child) is receiving DLA care component at the highest rate - it's not related to ESA groups.
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Sofie on 20 Sep 2012 12:13PM
From http://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/f31.htm#Enhanced

Enhanced disability premium

You or your partner must satisfy one of the following:

    be in the support group
    be under the qualifying age for pension credit and receiving the high rate care component of disability living allowance

If you have a partner you will be paid the couple rate of this premium. 
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: KizzyKazaer on 20 Sep 2012 12:22PM
It would seem we are both looking in different places for our information, so either the DWP themselves or Disability Rights UK have incorrect info on their websites - my apologies for any confusion regarding the Enhanced Disability Premium, Breeze!  Will try and find out which is right for you  >thumbsup<
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: KizzyKazaer on 20 Sep 2012 01:13PM
...OK, first off - thank you for bringing the EDP subject up, Sofie, because it warranted some further research.... and no matter where I was looking on the DWP's own web pages, there was no mention of the Support Group being an EDP 'qualifier' in its own right.  So I decided to get it from the horse's mouth  >biggrin<

I phoned the DWP's Benefit Enquiry Line (0800 882 200) which provides benefit information for disabled people and carers, and I can confirm that Sofie's link is indeed correct - if someone is in the Support Group, they are automatically entitled to EDP (for the purposes of an income-based ESA assessment) without having to meet the DLA higher rate care condition.  This applies to ESA only.  So I will just wipe some egg off my face now  ;-) and leave some feedback on the DirectGov site to point out this glaring omission on the DWP's part....

ESA - the benefit that the DWP make up as they go along  >biggrin<
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Sunshine Meadows on 20 Sep 2012 03:50PM
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However, having seen a post on here about help with winter fuel payments, i rang my fuel supplier to see if i could get any help.  I was told only if i was on Income based ESA, which would allow me to get £130 off my winter bills and that Contribution based doesn't qualify me for anything. I'm not sure what the rules are as which one you are put on?

Breeze,

Kizzy alreadymentioned there are several factors invovled in whether you get income based ESA or contribution based ESA or a combination of the two.

If you take another look at the letter sent to you that told you that you had been put in the Support Group and see if it has any £ amount next to the line that says Income Based. On mine there is no £ amount and so I figured I am not been assessed as entitled to income based benefit. It was easy for me to see this was correct because my partner earns works more than 24 hours week,

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/esa1-print.pdf

Page 2

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6,000lFor example–earnings from part-time work–other social security benefits–if you have a partner who is working less than24 hours a week and has earnings–personal or occupational pensions.You will not be entitled to income-relatedEmployment and Support Allowance if yourpartner is working more than 24 hours a week orthey have savings in excess of £16,000.

My situation is straight forward wheras other people might have income from a pension or a partner who wors fewer than 24 hours. In wheich case i would say ring up and ask for a claim form for Income based ESA.

Your next question was abut free prescriptions. If you receive any income based ESA I think you are entitled to free prescriptions but if like me you are only on Contributions based then you will not be unless you meet certain criteria,

http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/Healthcosts/Pages/Prescriptioncosts.aspx

click on Exemption for People with a Specified medical condition.

eg diabetes insipidus or other forms of hypopituitarism

There is a low income scheme http://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/1130.aspx

Also a working Tax Credit Scheme http://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/Documents/HealthCosts/Tax_Credits_flowchart.pdf which has a earnings limit.

You mention Housing benefit at the end of you post and this suggests to me that you income is low enough to get Income based ESA because Housing benefit has earning limits too.


Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Sunshine Meadows on 20 Sep 2012 04:07PM
If Breeze is entitled to Income Based ESA it means they are already entitled to things like free prescriptions, Housing Benefit and also help from energy eg gas and electricity suppliers. This makes the entitlement to Enhanced Disability Premium a mote point. As far as I can tell people have to already be on either Income Support or Income Based ESA before they are awarded Enhanced Disability Premium.

Breeze,

You are already in the Support group and so you are getting some income Based ESA it is worth asking the DWP about the Enhanced Disability Premium because from what Sofie and Kizzy posted you will be entitled to that too.
eg
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/FinancialSupport/OtherBenefitsAndSupport/DG_068683

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If you are disabled and receive Income Support, you may qualify for a premium on top of the basic personal allowance.
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Breeze on 20 Sep 2012 06:07PM
Goodness me, i'm so glad i asked this question!  It was only the thread on here about help with fuel bills that got me thinking!!  It's all very confusing isn't it?  I shall read all the links in this thread in more detail as i've not long come home after an appointment today. I certainly think i need to ring and ask about the Income Based ESA as i don't have a partner and don't have much in savings at all.  It does say in the letter that i can ask about Income Based ESA so i will!  I just accepted what the letter said without question...

Kizzy, i didn't get any Income Support top up on my Disability Benefit, but i do get DLA at the lowest rate for both care and mobility.

Thank you all so very much for your help and advice - i didn't even know about EDP, i hadn't heard of it   >doh<

I think it would be worth me ringing them up to ask about this and i will let you know what information i get back.

Thank you all so very much for taking the time and the trouble to find out as much as you can for me - i very much appreciate your help!  Thank you all and i will let you know what the powers that be say when i've phoned them.

Thank you again for your kindness and help   >star<
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: KizzyKazaer on 20 Sep 2012 06:35PM
Hi Breeze - pleased we could all help, even if it was via 'the long way round'   >biggrin<  I will admit I am still learning myself about ESA.  I was previously employed by the DWP ("gamekeeper turned poacher", you might say  >whistle<) as an Income Support processor, so perhaps I need to take my 'IS head' off sometimes  ;-)

If all you've got coming into your household is your ESA(C) and capital below £6000 (if it was between £6000 and £16000 you'd lose a £1 for every £250) then it's definitely worth you claiming income-based ESA for that EDP.  It's currently worth £14.80 per week in 'hard cash', plus it will 'passport' you to automatic free prescriptions, eye tests, dental treatment etc.  And also - at the moment - full Council Tax benefit and full Housing Benefit for the rent the Council deems is 'eligible'.

(and yes, you're spot on, it can get very confusing  >doh<!  Will be interested to hear the next instalment  >thumbsup< ) 
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: devine63 on 20 Sep 2012 07:26PM
Hi Breeze

you've had some excellent advice here, but you know, it's rarely a bad idea to check in with your local Citizen's Advice Bureau and get them to give you (and your partner if you have one) a benefits check, to see if there is anything else you might be entitled to claim.
regards, Deb
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Breeze on 20 Sep 2012 08:04PM
What i can't understand is why i was put on Contrbution Based ESA.  I get the same amount now as i did when i was on Incapacity Benefit. I was transferred right into the Support Group.  I pay some rent and council tax but get a rebate on both and my prescription charges i don't pay for as i have an HC2 which i applied for when i was still on Incapacity Benefit, it's not due to be renewed until about next March i think.  As i said, i don't have a partner and i get the low rate on both mobility and care of DLA.  I was wondering - are there any down sides to being on Income Based ESA as opposed to Contribution based?

I will call them tomorrow anyway.

Deb i do have a support worker so i can ask her about all of this to see what she can find out too - thanks for the advice though, much appreciated.
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Monic1511 on 20 Sep 2012 08:55PM
are there any down sides to being on Income Based ESA as opposed to Contribution based?
only if your capital is £6001 or more then you lose £1.00 from your income related ESA

Income based ESA should passport you to full housing benefit, the only proviso is if your rent is higher than the local housing rate then you would still have to make up the shortfall.  Income based ESA is like income support so you could apply for community care grants etc after 26 weeks - if you need stuff but since its the middle of the tac year these are starting to be refused more often than not.
Monic
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: bubble on 20 Sep 2012 10:36PM
Is esp, only for high rate care component ? Or is it middle as well, just wondered as ive never heard of it either
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Sunshine Meadows on 20 Sep 2012 11:04PM
Kizzy,

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plus it will 'passport' you to automatic free prescriptions, eye tests, dental treatment etc.

 >doh<  I was trying to think of what they called it when getting one benefit open doors to other benefits and there it is passporting'.

Breeze,

I think it is safe to say everyone on this thread who offered advice are glad of the thank yous and even more happy that we are able to help.

It is late in the evening for me to be posting but I just want to try to explain the contribution based benefit bit.

People who have paid enough National Insurance contributions while they were working are entitled to a certain amount of benefit whatever there income is. For example Mr Sunshine earns around £14000- £15000 a year and I get £105 Support Group ESA a week, if Mr Sunshine earned £40000 a year I would still get the same money. I cant claim Income Based ESA because our joint income is above the threshold the govenment set. However, if I lived on my own, I would still get the contribution based ESA because I am entitled to it and I believe because I am also in the Support Group I would have my entitlement to that added to what the government classes as the minimum income I can be expected to live on. I dont know this for sure because I dont know some one who has claimed who is in that position but it follows logically that it is likely I would get £105 contributions based ESA and £14.50 Income based ESA (because of an entitlement to the Enhanced Disibilty premium).

If anyone who has access to more definitive information on this please let use know and if possible supply a link.

For people who have been on Incapacity benefit for a long time this can all be very confusing because I dont think the government always explained the benefit to people getting it.

It sounds like we will know more when you do  >thumbsup<

Debs,

I agree with you about Citizen's Advice because while people here can advise and give an opinion which is mostly right we are mostly sick and disabled ourselves and are therefore not always able to be up to date.
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: KizzyKazaer on 21 Sep 2012 07:49AM
Is esp, only for high rate care component ? Or is it middle as well, just wondered as ive never heard of it either

EDP for other means-tested benefits is indeed only awarded if the claimant (or any partner or child) is receiving HR care component of DLA.  Middle rate care (and higher, of course) can attract another premium  - Severe Disability (SDP) subject to certain conditions, mainly based on if a person is defined by the DWP as 'living alone' (and nobody receives or has claimed Carers' Allowance in respect of them).

'Living alone' comes with its own set of variables besides the blatantly obvious;  eg if there is another person in the household who is receiving MR or HR care as well, the claimant is still treated as living on their own for SDP purposes.   If anyone needs more information on this, just ask  :-)
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Breeze on 21 Sep 2012 09:09AM
Good morning,

Well - am i glad i talked to people on here about this and it all stemmed from reading about if i could get any help with my winter fuel bills!

First thing about ringing the DWP is that they say in their recorded message while asking you to hold on that they are less busy between 8am and 9am so best to ring then - obviously everyone does, so it tends to be their 'busiest' time  >doh<  However, i held on for 15 mins as i have another appointment today and also have to ring about rent etc later on, so thought i would try and get through which i did.

I can only say, they make it 'very difficult' to get what you may be entitled to (at least the person i spoke to did) so if anyone does ring them, the advice i've had from here certainly came in very useful as i was 'armed' so to speak...

I was told i'd been put on the Contribution based ESA as i didn't get Income Support top up on my Incapacity Benefit.  I then said it mentioned in the letter i could ask about if i could get Income based ESA (much waffle followed by the person i spoke to but i kept asking). I was asked if i lived alone and if i had any other money coming in?  I told them DLA at the low rates for care and mobility and the amount of savings i have which is 'well' below the limit, that was all.  I was told that i could indeed apply for Income Based which would be the same amount as i get now but that the fact i would still be getting Contribution based also would dominate (doesn't matter in my view as long as there is Income Related with it, it is a passport to other things which she confirmed!).  I was told i would be sent an ESA3 to fill in   :-)

I then asked if would be entitled to EDP if i then got Income Related ESA and i was told - yes!  I get £105-05 per week at the moment so if i can get EDP (which will remain to be seen) but that will mean an extra £14-80 (if that is the rate) on top and also i will no longer have to pay rent or council tax as i do now.  My prescriptions are due to low income anyway so that will continue but will be automatic.

I was told again that it said on my file i will be asked to fill in forms for my next assessmentfor ESA in 3 years time (second time i have been told this) so -  yet more forms to fill in but will be worth it if things work out and i shall let you know if they do.

Just wondering if i need another form also to claim EDP?

It just shows how reading this site has helped so very much and you are all   >star< >star< >star<

Fingers crossed as it will all no doubt take some time to sort out, and hopefully it will turn out ok, we shall see.  I can then phone about my fuel once it is sorted, if it is.

Thank you once again and anyone else in my position, please check about moving onto Income Related ESA as it hadn't even entered my head until what i was reading on here!!

With very many thanks,

Breeze.xx    :-)
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: KizzyKazaer on 21 Sep 2012 09:49AM
Just wondering if i need another form also to claim EDP?

Nope, the chap I spoke to from the Benefit Enquiry Line confirmed it was an automatic award for income-based ESA purposes iif you're in the Support Group - and it is indeed worth an extra £14.80 per week in addition to your ESA-C.  Well done for your persistence with the DWP call centre!
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Sunshine Meadows on 21 Sep 2012 10:00AM
Breeze,

 >bighugs< thank you so much for posting the information from your phone call.
I am glad you 'kept asking' and were not fobbed off by the person on the phone.
Anyone reading this thread will now have a much better idea of what questions to ask and how to ask eg using the phrase top up.

 :-)
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Sofie on 21 Sep 2012 12:03PM
You said you get prescriptions for being on a low income. You had to fill in a form each year I think? You don't need to do this if on income based E.S.A. You just show them your award letter. Actually, you may only need to put your national insurance number on the back of the prescription.
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Breeze on 21 Sep 2012 05:07PM
I hope it does help people because i'm going to have to hand this over to my support worker next week as it's really knocked me about trying to sort this out.  The DWP helpline for people with disabilities have said if people look at the internet and their site they will probably end up very confused!  They have told me that once the ESA3 has been filled in then this will generate any other payments that can be awarded such as the EDP as Kizzy so rightly has said.

They also told me that you can only apply for Income related ESA 13 weeks after the Contribution based award has been made. 

My problem now seems to be a total lack of communication between the benefits people and my housing group who have been told i am already on Income related ESA and getting the EDP award too   >doh<  Hopefully this will get sorted out when my support worker comes next week as  frankly, i can't cope with it all now even though i have at least got something sorted but it's very hard indeed!

Phew!  I think i'll go and have a lie down before i fall down (7 times and get up 8 lol).  Thanks everybody and hope this thread helps others   >bighugs<
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Breeze on 21 Sep 2012 06:09PM
Is esp, only for high rate care component ? Or is it middle as well, just wondered as ive never heard of it either

Bubble, after a really tough day i just had to say thank you for making me smile.  I think if we did have ESP a lot of us on here would do a hell of a lot better   >biggrin<

As long as you are making sure you are on Income related ESA as well as Contribution based (ask for the ESA3 form from DWP to apply) you automatically get Enhanced Disabilty Payment (extra £14-80 a week or whatever it is) if you are in the support group and have few savings and are on your own.  Hope that helps   :-)
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Fizzbw on 01 Oct 2012 10:58AM
Sorry, I'm being a bit confusednby everything. I have that I have an income related component on my award letter, and I'm in the Support Group. So could I get EDP? I have an extra component for being in the support group on my letter. I don't get any DLA.

I live with my parents.

Thanks, i find this very confusing!!!

Fizzbw x
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Breeze on 01 Oct 2012 11:50AM
Not doing too good today and very, very tired but.....  Fizz, if you are on Income Based ESA and Contrbution Based also, and in the Support Group, you should automatically get EDP included but i'm not sure what difference it makes if you live with your parents as i know they ask if you live alone with regard to other income coming in, so don't know if that might affect things in your case - maybe someone might help with the info on that. You don't have to be in receipt of DLA either as far as i'm aware as i'm on the low rate for both mobility and care (i'm confused myself though now as a lot going on at the moment, sorry for any mistakes).  I'm sure others will put right anything i've missed.

Also, if anyone is on Contribution Based and want to apply for that to include Income Based (as i have) you don't have to wait 13 weeks as i previously said (that is only for new claimants).  You can apply at anytime and i have been told, the award for Income Based ESA as well, will be backdated to when you are first transferred from Incapacity to ESA Contribution Based which is my situation.

Please be prepared that the ESA 3 form is infact 50 pages long!   >yikes<

The disability helpline is useful and again if you want to check anything out their number as another poster i think put on earlier is...

0800 882 200 no personal information required, they will just answer any general questions that you have.
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: KizzyKazaer on 01 Oct 2012 01:36PM
Hi Fizzbw and Breeze - regarding Enhanced Disability Premium, it doesn't matter if you live with your parents as long as you are receiving income-based ESA.  The EDP should have been automatically added while the calculation of your ESA was taking place.  I know on the old Income Support award letters, the additional premiums are always separately listed, but I haven't actually set eyes on an ESA notification yet, so not sure if it includes the same detailed information. 

If ESA is your sole income and you're not having anything deducted for savings over £6000, you should be getting £119.85 per week in total.  This is made up of:

£71.00 basic ESA
£34.05 Support Group component
£14.80 EDP


(Where the confusion might have come from as regards living with parents - there is the Severe Disability Premium which is paid to those who receive middle or higher rate care DLA and are defined as 'living alone', so that premium would be affected - but as you don't receive DLA it's not an issue).
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Fizzbw on 01 Oct 2012 03:45PM
Hi Kizzy, thanks.

I'm getting £108 a week, on my award letter it says basic amount £60 something,
Then income related amount £99 minus 0.00 and then the support group component £30 something and then an extra amount so I don't loose money having moved from IB to ESA.

I've never filled in any income related forms though so wonder if I've not got an income related component after all? Im entitled to Given ESA is my sole income and I have very small savings.

Nothing else.

Fizzbw x
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Breeze on 01 Oct 2012 04:49PM
Thanks Kizzy. Those figures are just the same as what i get at the moment.

You know Fizz you have to be careful and do have to check they are paying you the right money so might be worth you getting back to the people who sent you the letter to make sure you are getting the right amount as you should be getting an extra £14-80 Enhanced Disability Payment on top of what you get i would think, given you have been told you are on Income Related ESA, the extra £14-80 should automatically be added without you having to apply.

The DWP had sent my housing group the wrong information about my income!

Worth you checking back with the people who sent you the letter as mistakes can be made and you might not be getting the right amount so worth you asking i'd think.   :-)
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: KizzyKazaer on 01 Oct 2012 06:38PM
Fizzbw - I just had a thought.  Are you under 25 years of age?  If that's the case, your basic ESA rate will be less, unfortunately - £56.25 per week.  The Support Component and the EDP remain the same, however, which would give you a total income of £105.10 (plus any 'transitional protection' you would get so that you're not worse off than you were with IB).

Breeze also has a good point about checking it with the DWP themselves as well - when new benefits like ESA are being implemented, more mistakes are likely to be made  >erm<
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Fizzbw on 01 Oct 2012 07:32PM
Nope, I'm 40 :)

Fx
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: KizzyKazaer on 01 Oct 2012 07:48PM
That's good news then - from an ESA payment rate point of view, if you see what I mean  ;-)

You really do need to contact the DWP for a breakdown of how your money is made up, I think!  This information will be held on their computer system and you should be able to clarify if the EDP is included in your benefit assessment....
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Fizzbw on 01 Oct 2012 10:30PM
Yes I will do that, thank you very much :)

Will let you know the outcome....

Fx
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Fizzbw on 02 Oct 2012 04:28PM
Well I rang a very unhelpful and unsympathetic lady at the DWP. I'm on contributions based ESA so the EDP is included. She is sending me a form to apply for income related but refused to say if I would be better off or not.

I have just realised that I've been telling porkies at the dentist as I told them I didn't have to pay. Oops. Can I get winter fuel payment when I live with my parents ( both oaps)?

One thing though, I asked her when I was due to be assessed and she said I was in the SG for three years, though admitted I could be reassesed at any time, when I told her I found this stressful she replied that she was putting the form in the post for me......nice, sympathetic, kind....

So still a bit confused. And now I can fret about the dentist catching up with me as well!! Oh I'm in Wales so prescriptions are free...

I'm also going to send s copy of my "award letter" to my MP to show him how incomprehensible it is.

Many thanks

Fizzbw xx
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: KizzyKazaer on 02 Oct 2012 05:14PM
You may not be 'in strife' with the dentist - there is also the NHS Low Income Scheme for people who aren't currently receiving the means-tested benefits which give automatic entitlement to free prescriptions, dental treatment etc.  You need to fill in a form HC1 - see this link on how to obtain this (slightly different for Wales than England):

http://www.nhsbsa.nhs.uk/HealthCosts/1128.aspx

Sorry you had a 'bad apple' on the other end of the phone - it's luck of the draw now with the call-centre set-up  >erm<

The three years in the Support Group before reassessment is positive information, though, as this is the longest time that can possibly be granted from what's known about the ESA process to date.   (They have to say the blurb about 'could be reassessed any time' - that applies to all DWP benefits, as there has to be a percentage of random samples, computer-selected, of claims up for review at any one time.   Again, it's a lottery - certainly not worth stressing over.)

As for the Winter Fuel Payment, that's only for over-60s - so if you have pensioner parents, they will get it!  You may be confusing it with the Cold Weather Payment for people on certain income-based benefits.  Anyway, well done for making that call  >thumbsup<
Title: Re: Contribution Based ESA
Post by: Fizzbw on 02 Oct 2012 10:09PM
Thanks Kizzy, you've been a great help.

Fxxx