what is the difference???

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huhn

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what is the difference???

  • on: 22 Apr 2019 05:03PM
what is the difference between a homeless and a person that looks for  shelter?
 for me is it  the same but our  minister for  social  welfare  says we have no homeless we have only a lot  of people that are searching for shelter.

and here is the article to it
Today, there is not one person living on the street, not even one homeless person, but there are people seeking shelter, and it is to these persons that the ministry responds to immediately, housing them temporarily in hotels,” Emilianidou added.

Also fending off criticism, Interior Minister Constantinos Petrides said that the responsibility for the delay in the government’s proposals for a new housing policy lies primarily with the previous government.

In statements after the meeting, the chair of the committee Eleni Mavrou said that while the homeless are increasing and more are living in despicable conditions, “we witnessed today the unacceptable stance of the interior minister.”

She said he committed to producing a new housing policy last January, but was still speaking of studies and announcements, without concrete solutions or implementation timelines.

Mavrou added that the “extinguishing solutions” given by state services may temporary soften the severity of the issue but they do not constitute solutions.

The government, must move “beyond excuses and attempts to deflect responsibility”, and present immediate concrete policies and long-term housing programmes

KizzyKazaer

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Re: what is the difference???

  • on: 22 Apr 2019 05:20PM
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what is the difference between a homeless and a person that looks for  shelter?
 for me is it  the same but our  minister for  social  welfare  says we have no homeless we have only a lot  of people that are searching for shelter.

There's the answer to your question right there - 'people searching for shelter' sounds a lot 'better' for politicians to put out rather than an emotive word like 'homeless'.  It's just tinkering with language really:  bit like describing 'unemployed' as 'people looking for work'. And the very real everyday problems faced by disabled people become... 'challenges'  >erm<

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Re: what is the difference???

  • on: 23 Apr 2019 10:41AM
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what is the difference between a homeless and a person that looks for  shelter?
 for me is it  the same but our  minister for  social  welfare  says we have no homeless we have only a lot  of people that are searching for shelter.

There's the answer to your question right there - 'people searching for shelter' sounds a lot 'better' for politicians to put out rather than an emotive word like 'homeless'.  It's just tinkering with language really:  bit like describing 'unemployed' as 'people looking for work'. And the very real everyday problems faced by disabled people become... 'challenges'  >erm<

What I can say is in the city I am in 60% are NOT homeless but beggars.  Some want money for drugs, others for drink and some who... just want money they don't even pretend to be or look homeless.  Shelter said 61% of people on the street they offered help to then refused it, or, left after 1 or 2 days to return to the streets.  We have 4 'regulars' here who are known to commute from flats in the burbs quite unashamed to then park up outside an ATM or supermarket with a dog they pass between each other etc.  There are genuinely homeless, but we don't who they are frankly.  Perhaps if they carried authorisation like the those selling the magazine have to?    Also, we have 1 pro beggar who commutes between cities.  I don't give them money myself, as this would mean me aiding and abetting addiction. I do suggest they contact Shelter or the local charities that offer them help, but I got abuse for that and accused of being uncaring.  The overall result s we are being swamped by 'tent cities' springing up, and it is deterring shoppers and investment too.  The only answer is state intervention insisting they take support provided or else.  'Travellers' the Romanies get it.

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Re: what is the difference???

  • on: 23 Apr 2019 10:56AM
I read the opening post yesterday and it took re reading it and reading Kizzy's post to get my brain in gear.

Homeless refers to a home, a home is generally a permanent place to live not just a place to stay temporarily so it gives the person living there a sense of stability and ability to plan for the future. Just about everyone no matter how poor will seek to furnish and decorate their home in a way that pleases them. A home is where you can store and use all your personal possession. Ideally a home is a place where you feel safe and secure physically, emotionally and spiritually.

A place of shelter has a roof, generally it is not supposed to be permanent place to live , might have shared facilities eg toilet and place to wash. It is a place where you physical body might continue to function but it seems to me the ability to have a home life and go to work is limited.

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Re: what is the difference???

  • on: 23 Apr 2019 12:29PM
we are missing here a lot of  say normal state run  welfare support, here is it mainly family or friends  who step in.  but looks like in towns it  gets a real problem, normally old empty houses or building sites where easy accessible but now they are much more secured. without the support from my children i were also  homeless, falling through the welfare network.