Toilet seats!

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RoseRodent

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Toilet seats!

  • on: 02 Mar 2018 01:03PM
I am in need of a new toilet seat again, as the sort I usually use is no use any more. They have made them cheaper and cheaper until they are made of practically nothing. In an ideal world I want a padded seat, but have been looking for about 10 years for a padded one with a real hinge and a lid which is NOT RAISED and only found that sort.


So now I am looking at standard seats (as the next best one I found was nearly 100!! And no I won't get any help from OT services) and interested to know if anyone who uses a standard seat AND usually finds the seat slides around has found any of these "stay tight" or other special guaranteed no wobble type seats have been properly secure? I have fallen off too many toilets when they make that little sideways dip and off I go. I'd be interested in any recommendations but don't want people to waste their time sending me things that are definitely no good:


  • If you never found a toilet seat slippery ever, there's not a lot of point telling me yours is tight, as it may not be especially tight, you might just be lucky. If you have a good one which replaced a bad one, I'd like to know what the good one is
  • It has to fit to the standard holes in the toilet using hinges and a lid. Those things which clip onto the bowl are useless to me.
  • It absolutely cannot be raised. That's what the OT service brings every time, and they cannot understand my complaint that it's too high. Reply to "The 2in toilet is too high" "We have a 4in one too if that is better".  >steam<
  • Under 80, as there are already several I have seen in the "silly money" area. I'm hoping for 35 max
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Sunny Clouds

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Re: Toilet seats!

  • on: 02 Mar 2018 01:35PM
Just thinking round this...

You could buy an ordinary Bemis Stay Tight type seat on ebay then spend  money on some good quality rubber washers for the fittings.  I had a problem with a seat wobbling where I was before and spent time rummaging for washers.  As it happened, I had a good collection of washers, but if there's an old-fashioned plumber's merchant or general hardware store near you where you can rummage, you might find something.  The thing is to focus on rubberiness/clinginess not on shape and cut to shape later.

Also, some rubber washers/discs fastened to the top rim of the loo with sticky fixers or glue could provide less movement.  Note I'm saying fastened to the loo not to the seat, i.e. that the friction that stops movement would be between rubber and underside of seat not between rubber and top of loo rim.

The other thing that might be worth considering if you could get it secondhand would be something my father had that you could adapt if you're handy with tools.  It was a combination shower-chair, commode and over-loo chair.  The lid was the seat.  You take out the commode pail to turn it into an  over-loo chair.  You could get one of those and take the wheels off.  The lid being the seat, you might want to change it for a sheet of plastic or something if you find it heavy/awkward.

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huhn

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Re: Toilet seats!

  • on: 03 Mar 2018 09:35AM
even  for normal people the seats are useless, i am looking also  for a old seat what stays in place for my  clumsy bunch of family, myself included.

Sunny Clouds

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Re: Toilet seats!

  • on: 03 Mar 2018 07:33PM
What a pity you wobbly seat people don't live here.  I'd get my DIY kit out, buy a couple of wooden seats, affix brackets to the underside to fit over the edge of the loo, add some rubber spacers, and hey presto, seats that don't move!
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Re: Toilet seats!

  • on: 04 Mar 2018 11:22AM
I have done many a DIY job, the previous seat had bumpers on the underside, but after a while they crack the material where you have screwed them in. If you glue them on, they are not sufficiently secure. I've put dycem under the join, which is fine unless it gets the tiniest drop of liquid on it (you clean the toilet ever). If it were for me only to decide then I could just stump up the cash, but when you have family who can see a 3.50 toilet seat in Aldi and you want them to go halves on a 77 toilet seat, they don't see your point. :(

I might have another shot at OT services, but since they are aware that you can appeal the decision if they say it's appropriate but too expensive for them to pay for, but not if they say it would be dangerous for you, this is the report I got before:

"Pt requires a soft toilet seat. She finds the so and so type too high. A soft seat is available from [supplier] which is not one of our suppilers. Having assessed the situation, this type would not be appropriate and we recommend the [type we happen to have sitting in our stores already which is both raised AND hard]"

With absolutely no justication of how the one which is hard and high is going to meet my need for soft and low! The one they were trying to get out of buying was only 30, which is actually LESS than the one they wanted to buy me!!!

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Re: Toilet seats!

  • on: 04 Mar 2018 01:15PM
Aaargh, this is a nightmare for you!  I should have realised you'd have already tried all the obvious stuff.   

I'd suggest trying to get funding elsewhere but I expect you've tried that.

Would it be too weird to suggest letting local carers' groups know you're on the look-out?  I'm thinking of carers for elderly people.  Being crude, I mean carers of people who might either pop their clogs or move into a hospital/nursing facility, and no longer want/need their specialist equipment? 
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Re: Toilet seats!

  • on: 04 Mar 2018 01:43PM
I've suddenly worked out the answer.  What you need is non-stick bumpers screwn firmly into a soft surface.  Your bum should do nicely.  Screw the non-stick bumpers onto your bum and hey presto, no slippage on the loo, chairs or wherever.  Sorted. 

 >run<
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Re: Toilet seats!

  • on: 04 Mar 2018 04:47PM
Aaargh, this is a nightmare for you!  I should have realised you'd have already tried all the obvious stuff.   

I'd suggest trying to get funding elsewhere but I expect you've tried that.

Would it be too weird to suggest letting local carers' groups know you're on the look-out?  I'm thinking of carers for elderly people.  Being crude, I mean carers of people who might either pop their clogs or move into a hospital/nursing facility, and no longer want/need their specialist equipment? 

Unfortunately almost 100% of those people will have the clip on raised seat without lid that I can easily get.

I was about to take more than half the money from my own savings and drop a King's ransom on a seat I know well from disabled public loos, and it's too long...at least I think it is, but they've not included proper dimensions, it funnily states "length" which may or may not include hinges. Oddly, the seats they bring that aren't suitable always fit, but most seats we buy in the shops are too long, so that might be a no go also. I just want to wee!!! Might support my request for a self operated track hoist, though...

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Re: Toilet seats!

  • on: 04 Mar 2018 07:18PM
I've had a problem with my toilet for 5-6 years, it has moved as the floor underneath rotted away and the bowl sunk down so that the fill hose became disconnected and I first found out when I flushed it and the water flooded the bathroom  haha

I did have the landlord look at it a few days after it happened but he said he would have to replace the entire thing and fix the floor, that was 5-6 year ago and the landlord has since passed on, so to this day I flush it by pouring a bucket of water or two down it. 
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Re: Toilet seats!

  • on: 04 Mar 2018 07:43PM
Steve your flat sounds more scary by the minute! Is there no chance of social housing in your area?

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Re: Toilet seats!

  • on: 05 Mar 2018 02:07PM
you just made me smile,  once we moved in a new  building, 4 bedrooms and 5 loos, happily 5  loos. one after the other  got blocked,  in the end we  found out, the workers used them as a bin.

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Re: Toilet seats!

  • on: 15 Apr 2018 11:50PM
Well it's not soft but it doesn't matter because it's slapped like a backside with legs, unlike the standard seat which is shaped like a ring. I now have a huge seat with built in bumpers and a commercial hinge which I got cheap from a plumbers' merchant which is not doing "Part M" packs any more. Touch wood that's over a month I've not fallen off the bog!

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Re: Toilet seats!

  • on: 16 Apr 2018 10:09AM
 >thumbsup< >thumbsup< >thumbsup<
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Re: Toilet seats!

  • on: 16 Apr 2018 08:17PM
Steve your flat sounds more scary by the minute! Is there no chance of social housing in your area?

Sorry, I missed this reply.   
Yes it's a mess and has a lot of issues and quite frankly would be condemned if the council saw the insides of the building but I've lived here over 34 years and I'm too old to move and quite frankly I wouldn't want to.   The whole upheaval of packing and moving and getting used to living in a new area with new people.  Hell no, I'm happier here, even if it is a dump with no heating. 

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Re: Toilet seats!

  • on: 17 Apr 2018 10:12AM
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... it's slapped like a backside with legs

 >lol< did you mean 'shaped' like a backside, Rose?  Great typo, and funny either way  >biggrin<