DWP report tampering? I didn't know about this

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JLR2

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Has anyone heard about the DWP tampering with PiP reports?  I was reading in the National (Scotland's only Independence supporting newspaper) a story regarding audits at the DWP which routinely change face to face assessments. One remark in the story reads, ''A DWP spokesperson said the assessments had to be consistent, adding ''Both providers are working to the same legislative framework and criteria, which introduces a more objective, consistent assessment. The department are closely monitoring and auditing assessments to ensure quality and consistency. The department does not routinely provide the audits of the reports as they can contain personal information about members of staff and claimants.''

Seems to me the DWP are carrying out this 'auditing' to achieve government set targets. One of the MP's own constituents received in error their original audited report in which it was shown that the DWP auditor had reduced all awarded points given by the assessor to 0 zero and had the auditing not been carried out the claimant would have been entitled to PiP at the standard rate of 57.30 per week.

I find myself wondering now if there is any point to a face to  face assessment if the DWP auditors are simply going to decide, almost on a whim, who gets the points awarded by assessors and who doesn't?

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Is this the article click here  , it sounds scarey at first, Then I realised auditors are supposed to 


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The department are closely monitoring and auditing assessments to ensure quality and consistency.
The difficulty for me is that the DWP and companies they give assessment contracts to have a reputation for behaving badly and it is therefore hard to trust them.


The fact the auditor took away so many points indicates to me that the assessor maybe too generous in his or her scoring according to the rules. Who sets the rules?

JLR2

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That's the story I've been talking about Sunshine.

I feel though, with regards to the auditors job, that it is one thing to audit and record the results of face to face assessment medical reports but something else to tampering with the assessment of the assessor submitting the report. Somehow I doubt the DWP auditors have tampered with any claimant's medical report where they, the DWP, have added points to a claimant's claim.

Tony_Demoncy

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I've read more than one report about the DWP tampering with reports to the detriment of the claim.

Concerning but not really very surprising when you consider the conservative's hostile attitude towards benefits claimants and disabled people in particular.
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Concerning but not really very surprising when you consider the conservative's hostile attitude towards benefits claimants and disabled people in particular.
Indeed so, though "hostile" is somewhat of an understatement...
But in the years between a Tory government contracting Unum in the mid-1990s and the Coalition/Cameron/May regime, leading Blairites such as Cooper, Byrne, Reeves and Purnell (now of the BBC) did much to facilitate the present situation.
As things stand, they could still return. 

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The wider culture of the Labour party has changed somewhat since Jeremy Corbyn became leader of the Labour Party. There are still some blairite MPs dragging down the average, but there is wider member participation and a stronger more socialist dynamic now. Regardless, matters for disabled people and the country as a whole are sure to improve with a Labour government based on current Labour policies as compared to the disastrous policies of the Conservatives.
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''Regardless, matters for disabled people and the country as a whole are sure to improve with a Labour government based on current Labour policies as compared to the disastrous policies of the Conservatives''

Once upon a time I thought in a similar fashion about what a Cameron government would be like. My thinking was influenced by the way Cameron spoke in opposition about welfare. At the time his disabled son, Ivan, was receiving welfare benefits claimed for him by his father David Cameron, once elected however Cameron very quickly abandoned welfare benefit claimants to the depraved ideas of IDS and following the death of Ivan allowed IDS to let rip and begin the destruction of the welfare state.

Come the end of the UK's membership of the EU and the negative impact this will have on the UK economy a Labour government will justify ramping up cuts to the benefits system on the situation the country finds itself in so I am wary of anything the Labour party says in respect of its future welfare plans.

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.... matters for disabled people and the country as a whole are sure to improve with a Labour government based on current Labour policies as compared to the disastrous policies of the Conservatives.

So is cleaned-up Labour going to denounce Unum, terminate that US-multinational's association with UK government, ban it from operating in Britain, purge its acolytes from public office ... and cancel all State contracts with ATOS and Capita?

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So is cleaned-up Labour going to denounce Unum, terminate that US-multinational's association with UK government, ban it from operating in Britain, purge its acolytes from public office ... and cancel all State contracts with ATOS and Capita?
Probably not, but it could do simple things like put the about of Work Related Group claimants get back up to what it was rather than have it aligned to Jobseekers benefit. The could also stop time limiting Contributions based WRAG. Reduce the amount of reassessment that goes on and make sure the assessors have the right qualifications and experience.


In the longer term they could prove more funding to Access to Work, make sure people who are in Support Group are not so often reassessed when they manage to do some work for a period of time. Maybe there needs to be another thread sorry.