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lankou

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"Generations of families who have never worked."
« on: 07 Feb 2012 11:56AM »
"Generations of families who have never worked." A rant heard from the media, Cameron, Grayling, and Duncan Smith at list once week for months now, implying this is a vast army.
There fox has just been shot:-

http://www.bristol.ac.uk/cmpo/publications/papers/2011/wp278.pdf

Only 15,350 households in the UK have two or more generation who report to have ‘never worked’

Sofie

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Re: "Generations of families who have never worked."
« Reply #1 on: 07 Feb 2012 01:06PM »
And how of them are carers / disabled people?

lankou

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Re: "Generations of families who have never worked."
« Reply #2 on: 07 Feb 2012 02:13PM »
And how of them are carers / disabled people?

Sofie, if memory serves there are over a million carers. The "Generations of families who have never worked." is an entirely different issue.

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« Reply #3 on: 07 Feb 2012 03:21PM »
I read an article on this.

I think it was something like 0.9% of unemployed people had never worked, and 0.1% had previous generations that had never worked.

I'll try and find the figures, which give a slightly easier read than the pdf.

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Re: "Generations of families who have never worked."
« Reply #4 on: 07 Feb 2012 04:15PM »
in 3.7m working-age households, 18% of the total, nobody has a job. But two-generational worklessness is far rarer – workless parents and grown-up children are found together in only 0.9% of households. As for homes with two generations that have never worked, the fraction drops further, to less than 0.1% of the total.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/02/workless-families-convenient-truth-editorial?INTCMP=SRCH

lankou

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Re: "Generations of families who have never worked."
« Reply #5 on: 07 Feb 2012 04:34PM »
in 3.7m working-age households, 18% of the total, nobody has a job. But two-generational worklessness is far rarer – workless parents and grown-up children are found together in only 0.9% of households. As for homes with two generations that have never worked, the fraction drops further, to less than 0.1% of the total.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/feb/02/workless-families-convenient-truth-editorial?INTCMP=SRCH

My thread opener reference is the source for that newspaper article.

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Re: "Generations of families who have never worked."
« Reply #6 on: 13 Feb 2012 10:41PM »
I can think of one family in particular where no one has had a real job for several generations.
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Re: "Generations of families who have never worked."
« Reply #7 on: 13 Feb 2012 11:54PM »
Hi

Full fact have already looked into this stuff:

http://fullfact.org/factcheck/cameron-workless-household-children-miliband/3269   

regards, Deb

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Re: "Generations of families who have never worked."
« Reply #8 on: 20 Feb 2012 09:56PM »
I take it that figure includes the Cameron household >devil<

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Re: "Generations of families who have never worked."
« Reply #9 on: 20 Feb 2012 10:41PM »
Hi

Full fact have already looked into this stuff:

http://fullfact.org/factcheck/cameron-workless-household-children-miliband/3269   

regards, Deb

Workless households is an entirely different dataset to generation of families who have never worked.