Moving onto ESA from Incapacity Benefits

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xSparksx

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I wish I knew what was happening with the migration. My PCA was due November 2010. I assumed they were going to hold it over until the April when migration started, and I've heard absolutely nothing since then, except my annual uprating letter. The uncertainty is awful. If my PCA wasn't due (or overdue) I probably wouldn't be fretting so much, but this not knowing is horrendous.

Hurtyback

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Hurty, if you have been medically retired due to ill health / disability, i really hope you wont be expected to find a job / work again, as isn't this the point of being ill health retired ? as you cannot work ? or am i dreaming this (possibly, as have been having weird morphine induced dreams recently)  >yikes<

One would hope so but, sadly, it is not always the case. There are many stories of someone being found unfit to work by the ATOS pension scheme division but failing the WRAG which was administered by another branch of ATOS. I guess it depends on whether the pension is actually enough to live on.

myrtlemaid

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I dont even know when my PCA is due ..how can I find out without drawing unneccessary attention to myself and risk being assessed sooner rather than later ????
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KizzyKazaer

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I don't think a phone call to JobcentrePlus to find out the date held on their systems will trigger an earlier review - they seem to be doing it according to workloads (probably area-based) and staff capacity (see my post on previous page).  Which means you could be transferred before or after your PCA date anyway - so it seems like we're just going to have to keep on living in uncertainty.  I am PCA exempt so JC-Plus will be conjuring up their own PCA review date for me - don't know if that's a good or a bad thing yet  >whistle<

Basically, every day the postman has been and there's no DWP envelope containing an ESA50, that's a bonus.  All we can do is take each day at a time and seek support and advice from our friends here when it does finally arrive.... Sorry I can't offer anything more definite than that  >erm<

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seegee

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If you have a definite date that your assessment is due it will be on your original award letter.  The letter saying you are entitled to IB usually has a review date on it. 
I just checked mine from Sept.2008 & it says "Your case is due  to come up for a normal review on 24/07/2013 - so it seems I might have a while to wait yet unless they actually catch up with the assessments... 

hossylass

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I believe the PCA is running between one and two months late, but bless Grayling, he claims that they have a plan, and they will have caught up by summer...

I think the plan involves hiring more staff at Atos, but I heard that they cant get the staff.

seegee

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Maybe the plan involves widening the pool they recruit from? 
At the moment doctors, nurses & midwives can be assessors but it wouldn't be amazing if physios & OTs could be trained to do assessments - unfortunately for Grayling it may be written into the legislation which health professionals can be used... if it isn't, then why just "health" professionals anyway; specialist social workers know a lot more about living with impairment than a lot of doctors...
Does anyone know if it is?  There doesn't appear to be any good reason why a midwife should be better at assessing severe mental illness than an occupational therapist or more accurate about the daily effects of learning differences than a physio...

mohhhh

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HE PEOPLE,

DOES ANY BODY KNOW HOW LONG THEY TAKE TO CALL YOU UP FOR A FACE TO FACE INTERVIEW ONCE U HAVE RETURNED THE
WORKING CAPABILTY FORM?????? >

KizzyKazaer

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Hi Mohhhh and welcome to OuchToo  :-)

When you say 'face to face interview' you mean a medical?  You may not even be called up for this if the decision-maker finds there is enough information and evidence with your application to make an ESA award.  As for waiting times - appears to be a bit of a postcode lottery, unfortunately...

(By the way, it would help other readers if you didn't use capital letters for your entire posts - it's the equivalent of shouting in online communications, and this is how it will actually sound to any visually-impaired members using screen-readers!  Thanks in advance  >thumbsup<  )

mohhhh

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sorry guys for the capitals.....Just seen your reply I also pm you kizzy  >thankyou<
Yes I meant medical by the way....

In 2007 I had a medical with Atos and they said after the asessment I was fit to work!!!! So I appealed and won the case as a independant panel examined and I was awared the 15 points... My benefits were reinstated >biggergrin<....

In 2011 I was sent the questionnire again as my three years were up i filled it in with all my conditions and sent it back by the due date.  I was expecting a letter from Atos for examination but nothing came through its been well over a year!!!! So I thought this maybe because I turned 60 and they wont bother me as much..

Now I have had the ESA50 Form..... just abit confussed to what will happen next...........

please can you shed some light on this matter...... >thumbsup< >thumbsup<

Monic1511

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Hi Mohhh
Ive met a few people who are hitting retirement age but being sent ESA50's, just fill it out the best you can & wait and see what next.  If you have already returned it then it may take 12 - 18 weeks for them to make a decision, once you get the result you can then deceide if you appeal or depending on your circumstance if you can claim pension credit.
use this link to calculate your state pension age http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Pensionsandretirementplanning/StatePension/DG_4017919

When Im being a bit naughty a work i go round the office asking them their birthdays and then tell them you have     27 years and 5 months until you can retire or 2 years, 10 months and 18 days,  >devil< >biggrin<
I either get shouted at or a "respect your elders" speech.   Seriously try it for yourself and see how long you have to go on the ESA roundabout
Best wishes
Monic

KizzyKazaer

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Cheers, Mohhhh, no problem  >biggrin<

Monic - being naughty?  Never  ;-)

....Hopefully due to your age you won't be bothered by demands for a medical  >fingerscrossed<

mohhhh

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Monic >thumbsup<


 I have to send the form no later then the 23rd april 2012....Hopefully they take 12- 18 weeks to get back to me... I will be entitled for pension credit in jan 2013...  so in the mean time ill see wot happens.........

cheers guys

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mohhhh

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I got a phone call from atos healthcare today sunday 20th @ 11.00 am....They have arranged a interview for me on the 31st
of may to attend a medical.  My ESA50 form had to be returned by the 23rd of april it took them 4 weeks to get back in touch with me..... >thumbsdown<  >steam<

Now I ten days till the medical...........This has stressed me out >steam<......

I thought because of my age (60) they would transfer me stright to ESA, but it doesnt look like that.

If any body has any hint or tips please reply!!!!!!!!! >steam< >steam< >steam< >thumbsdown<

KizzyKazaer

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Sorry to hear this, Mohhhh, I struggle to understand why someone of your age would be pestered like this, too  >doh<

But this is the situation we now have to work with, so for starters:

When you sent in your ESA form, did you supply any additional medical evidence with it (from your GP, hospital consultant, anyone involved with treating you?)  If you didn't, this may be why you have been called for the medical.  So if you can contact any of these people to start providing this evidence, do so - even if it's not obtained in time for the appointment, it will still have to be considered before a final decision is made if you have notified the assessor that the paperwork is on its way.

Next, think about how you will be travelling to the medical, because you will be asked about this and the assessor might well make (incorrect) judgements about your condition based on how you got there, eg being able to drive on your own or stand waiting for buses and walking to and from bus stops etc.  If you have to use public transport and it causes you pain, fatigue, and/or distress, ensure that you emphasise this to the assessor.

Do you have anyone you can ask to go with you?  You are allowed to bring another person to sit in at the medical - friend, family member, carer.  This is highly recommended by welfare rights organisations.  The other person can speak for you if you are unable to do so due to anxiety, pain levels etc, and can take notes.  It's also reassuring not to be alone in that situation (and if they drive, that helps to clarify the potential 'travelling abilities' assumptions too).

I don't know the nature of your impairments, so this is just general pointers so far....